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Tom C - Wed 31 Oct 2018 09:34:49 #0

Well, it's been a while since anyone's posted. As for me, I've been busy doing shop & home maintenance while my car project is at the painter's. I have a project making a couple of fireplace screens for one of my good clients, & am looking forward to the next CVBG meeting at one of our members new shop.

Chuck, you still okay?

Happy Halloween, everyone!

Tom C

bruce godlesky - Thu 01 Nov 2018 14:51:52 #0

Same here Tom. Winter get-ready, growin' the woodpile, makin' knives and hawks and a lil bit of huntin' thrown in for good measure.

Cleaned up hydraulic press dies. Think I'll heat treat them this time. H13. 45rc good ???

Chuck - Thu 01 Nov 2018 23:04:52 #0


TOM C.--We are still kicking, just not as high as we used to.

We have been putting in a lot of miles between here and Amarillo.
Cy Wagner our second grand-son is 80 days into recovery from a head injury from a car wreck.
Cy was moved today back to a hospital called Vibra. When he got there.
The nurse said to his Mama "Y'all have mail even before you got back".

Our own Bruce Godlesky had sent Cy a hat or cap. I have not seen it yet. Cy had been sent back to ICU at the Northwest Texas Hospital. They took the skull flap out and threw it away. He will fitted for a Titanium plate. Until then Cy has his own crash helmet.
BRUCE --We do appreciate the cap. I know you had a rough deal to recover from.
I hope and pray Cy can do as well.
Helen and my health are not bad just need tending to. Rotoroot the neck, a monitoring chip. Helen is having real nagging , hanging on pain(the kind that can wear you down)R. Arthritis is a biting bitch.
We do need any extra prayers anybody has to spare for CY. He six year son is in the hospital right now for Pneumonia. He will be alright.

The knife community has sure been great for CY. Mike Miller has led the charge. Knife people are as good as they come.
Blessings to all

Tom C - Fri 02 Nov 2018 09:54:46 #0

Great to hear the encouraging news, Chuck. We're fortunate to live in a time where serious health issues can be dealt with.

Tom C

plain ol Bill - Mon 12 Nov 2018 21:40:06 #0

Chuck - brrrrrrrr

Got your ear muffs on today Chuck? Winter has come to your neighborhood. Hope it goes away for awhile cause we will be passing thru a little south of you next week.

bruce godlesky - Tue 13 Nov 2018 14:46:21 #0

lookin' for prayers

Just heard from ol Sweany. he went in for a heart cath this morning and they kept him, lookin' to do 3 by-passes.
I'm sure he could use the kneemail!

Alex Ivey - Wed 14 Nov 2018 22:01:44 #0


Bruce, thanks for posting on Sweany's heart problems, one can't get to much kneemail when health problems get you down. Kneemail from me. LXIV,

Buck Brown - Thu 15 Nov 2018 10:49:01 #0


Knee mail up!
Winter came at least a month early here.
Finished a pair of branding irons for a friend in Colorado. He wants to wood burn a sign for his driveway. Just need to put handles on them.

Alex Ivey - Thu 15 Nov 2018 22:36:27 #0

Back at the forge

Finally got healed from the surgery I had back at the end of August and back forging and doing some high voltage electrical inspection work. Pays a lot more than blacksmithing and almost as much fun. Posted a photo of 4 hat trees, last of my orders from the NM state fair. Note the 2 baseball caps on the tree on the left. First time for caps but the lady customer said that's what she wanted. LXIV,

Chuck - Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:06:26 #0

Catching Up

SWEANEY-- Best of luck. Do what the doc say;
Nurse watching Sweaney::: Tape his socks to his ankles so you an get away from him around the corners. God Bless Sweaney.
ALEX--Good to hear you are back up and going. Nice work.
BUCK It cooled down over also. Had some snow, got down to nine degrees. Another cool week-end coming up.
PLAIN OLE BILL--Where you headed>
BRUCE --CY is gaining a little each week. Going to be a long slow climb back of that deep hole. But he will make it.
TOM C- It is true the Docs can do great things if the Lord will help them a little.

plain ol Bill - Fri 16 Nov 2018 19:11:05 #0

Chuck reply

Chuck we are headed out of western Washington to Rockport on the coast to spend the cold months. Will stop off in Cowtown to visit sister and nieces for Thanksgiving then head on south.

Chuck - Wed 21 Nov 2018 21:57:23 #0


Well, We have made another year.
It seems that we are bogged down walking in soft sand.
The first thing you know, we have made another year.

This has been quite a year for all of us.
The fires, hurricanes, volcanos, droughts, floods, wrecks, strokes.
There seems to be no end to what we have had to stand strong against.

The Good Lord has given us the strength, determination, intelligence to withstand the onslaughts from different directions.
It is with great joy and happiness they are all still plugging along in our various modes of transport.
Some have fallen by the wayside, but they have gone to a better place and will be holding us a spot.
In our personal life. We have had one precious grand-son, CY WAGNER have a terrible car wreck. Cy Is stepping up with the Lord's help and many, many people praying for him.
He is progressing each day. Only the Lord knows how far Cy can make it back, but Cy is plodding along, struggling each day to get back to normal.
One of Cy's twin sisters had her daughter Maisie, Yesterday morning, we have many blessing in our lives.
I hope and pray that everybody can have a great day tomorrow, with a safe trip for all.

j - Thu 22 Nov 2018 06:55:05 #0


I wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving, and prayers for all that need them.

Tom C - Thu 22 Nov 2018 08:55:05 #0

Happy thanksgiving!

Tom C

Darrell - Thu 22 Nov 2018 15:29:53 #0


Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

Joe Rollings - Mon 26 Nov 2018 22:31:33 #0

Blessings to all of you

I am still trying to stand up and do the work, but am fading faster every year. started up being painful to heat 'em and beat 'em, but now painful to just stand on the concrete.

New power hammer helps a lot because the way I built it you almost have to sit down on a stool to operate the pedal.

Don't mind me, I just quit the Vicodin because of side effects and started something else. Better days ahead, one way or another....God bless.....Joe

Joe Rollings - Mon 26 Nov 2018 22:32:31 #0

Blessings to all of you

I am still trying to stand up and do the work, but am fading faster every year. started up being painful to heat 'em and beat 'em, but now painful to just stand on the concrete.

New power hammer helps a lot because the way I built it you almost have to sit down on a stool to operate the pedal.

Don't mind me, I just quit the Vicodin because of side effects and started something else. Better days ahead, one way or another....God bless.....Joe

bruce godlesky - Thu 29 Nov 2018 08:27:14 #0


Heard from Mike this week. Sounds like they did a batch of bypasses on him. Said he was glad to set up in a chair for a change :-)

Chuck - Sun 02 Dec 2018 23:58:18 #0

Nosing around.

BRUCE Is this Sweaney from Sulphur Oklahoma?
Hope he is kicking right along.
MILLS is another Okie I wonder about often.
Bill & DIANE DAVIS--Lazy Assed forge. Fine folks. Wonder about them.
Saltcreek Blacksmithing bunch?
JOE ROLLINGS--It is hell when the years start coming too fast.
DARRELL-- The noise quieted down about the volcano. Everything alright over there?
TOM C.-- Did you get your chev to the paint man?
TWO of my Grand sons went after a '97 Silverado suburban. They had to go all the way to Lake Arthur, NM. The suburban is in Elida, NM
The Daddy of one of them had wrecked his truck. They took home for him.
The Suburban is 4 wheel drive and every thing in the drive train, motor and all.
Will fit in my '96 Z71. My Z71 needs the motor, 5.7.

The Grand-son, Cy Wagner that was in the bad wreck, is gradually crawling out of the deep whole he is in. He still cannot talk or swallow, can't stand or walk by himself or sit-up. He is working hard on all this.
Cy has started to growl when he needs something, has got some control of his right hand. He is tough, determined, he will be back but is having to fight hard for everything he is getting back. Cy still needs all the prayers.
Blessings to all

Darrell - Mon 03 Dec 2018 12:24:48 #0


The volcano has gone almost completely dormant. There is no measurable SO2 and the air is the clearest it's been 12 years.

Tom C - Mon 03 Dec 2018 14:06:29 #0

Hi Chuck, the painter said it will be done next Monday or Tuesday. Then the fun starts up again as I put the shiny bits back on.

Glad to hear Cy is making progress even though it's slow going.

Darrell, clean air is a good thing.

Tom C

bruce godlesky - Tue 04 Dec 2018 09:00:48 #0


Sandpile, Sweany is from Sand Springs OK. Got an email last night, he's headed home today!.
With Cy, it's gonna be 3 steps forward one back. Don't get discouraged......btdt

Tom C lookin' forward to seein' that car upon completion!!

Been hunting deer for a week and a half. Need some shop time. Making Damascus arrowheads for the guys I shoot with :-) Gonna be action packed 3 weeks til Christmas.
No rest for the wicked.....

Darrell - Tue 04 Dec 2018 13:11:42 #0

No rest for the wicked

Don't worry. There is no rest for the rest of us either.

Bert - Wed 05 Dec 2018 11:12:08 #0

So Darrell

You still thinking of moving to The People's Republic of Eugene (well, actually all of Lane Cnty)?

News broke yesterday that the city is going to modify it's contract with the local Nat. Gas company to Actively Discourage people from using it to heat their homes or cook with... Wood is discouraged, and often prohibited during winter inversions when you need it most, electricity is expensive (not as bad as CA but they want to get there), coal is banned and being phased completely out of Oregon, nuclear is unthinkable and the Governor wants 50K electric cars on the roads by 2020, as well as a boatload of new taxes & fees, gun control and control of 'climate change' and everything you eat, think, do and are...

How do they expect folks to heat their home and live? Oh yeah, those wind mills and solar panels, which are more expensive than all of the above even With all the government subsidies and after 20+ years of development provide only about 2% of the power in the grid in Orygun...

Darrell - Wed 05 Dec 2018 13:27:27 #0


Our plans to move to Oregon have been discarded.
Our research has found that Oregon is more expensive than Hawaii.
Now that the volcano has settled down and the air is clear we decided to stay here
where the house and car are paid for. Instead of moving we plan to just visit occasionally.

Bert - Wed 05 Dec 2018 15:46:35 #0

Good to Hear Darrell

Yes, it's expensive here and about to get a lot worse. Lot's to be said for just staying where you are and putting up w/ the occasional tantrum from the volcano.

I'd have been gone from here 10 years ago but the wife has her nest, business and medical network (Crohn's Disease) here. Also she was born and grew up in SoCal so there's also the "it can't be anywhere colder than here" requirement. The two states above and below OR are worse 'blue-wise', Nevada & Arizona have been thoroughly Californicated and I don't do well in cities, traffic jams or around crowds of people...

Worked and traveled around the country and world enough before I retired to know I can't/don't want to live anywhere East of a line North to South through Denver... And even though there are something like 19 species of game birds on the Parker Ranch and I've harvested my share of wild pigs (the Hawaiian way) I get rock fever after a few months, even on the Big Island.

If the volcano gets to you, my mom and sis live in Kamuela (on the dormant volcano) and are quite happy.

bruce godlesky - Thu 06 Dec 2018 06:50:09 #0

Bert.... 19 species of game birds.... where is this place??? I'd have to get another setter or 2 :-)
Darrell, rest is hard to find ........

Bert - Thu 06 Dec 2018 11:54:28 #0

Parker Ranch

Bruce, I checked w/ my sis to be sure and it's only 13 species of birds (Oh, darn!) The ranch is huge and runs from sea level to about 8K feet on the North end of the Big Island; Hawaii. It's on and around Mauna Kea which is the biggest volcano, above the water, in Hawaii. Headquarters are in Waimea/Kamuela, a town on the West side of the Mountain.

There's also a couple kinds of goats, some bada** pigs (hunted the Hawaiian way means with a good pair of boots, a couple of even more bada** little dogs, and a big 'pig sticker') and if you aren't careful at night, you might crash into a wild donkey in certain places.

If I ever get my forge fired up again I'm going to try a couple of Damascus pig stickers for one of my nephews.

bruce godlesky - Thu 06 Dec 2018 13:09:19 #0


Bert, that's still a buncha different birds!! Sounds like some interesting ideas for an otherwise layin' on the beach vacation! I know they have a good turkey population on the Islands.

Hope to see some pictures of your pig stickers.....

Joe Rollings - Sun 09 Dec 2018 21:12:48 #0

If somebody wants solitude

I have a couple of 20 acre parcels for sale here. Depending on the direction you drive, 50 to 100 miles to the nearest stop light, if we hear an engine we go to the window and see who is here, because NOBODY drives down our road but us.

You can relieve yourself in the middle of the road, beat iron, yodel, nobody to hear or see. About 1300 acres and a dozen residences, property has it's own gravel pit and rifle range, adjoining thousands of acres one is free to roam at will.

Outside Rodeo, New Mexico.....Joe

Joe Rollings - Sun 09 Dec 2018 21:13:26 #0

If somebody wants solitude

I have a couple of 20 acre parcels for sale here. Depending on the direction you drive, 50 to 100 miles to the nearest stop light, if we hear an engine we go to the window and see who is here, because NOBODY drives down our road but us.

You can relieve yourself in the middle of the road, beat iron, yodel, nobody to hear or see. About 1300 acres and a dozen residences, property has it's own gravel pit and rifle range, adjoining thousands of acres one is free to roam at will.

Outside Rodeo, New Mexico.....Joe

Joe Rollings - Sun 09 Dec 2018 21:13:28 #0

If somebody wants solitude

I have a couple of 20 acre parcels for sale here. Depending on the direction you drive, 50 to 100 miles to the nearest stop light, if we hear an engine we go to the window and see who is here, because NOBODY drives down our road but us.

You can relieve yourself in the middle of the road, beat iron, yodel, nobody to hear or see. About 1300 acres and a dozen residences, property has it's own gravel pit and rifle range, adjoining thousands of acres one is free to roam at will.

Outside Rodeo, New Mexico.....Joe

Loren T - Thu 13 Dec 2018 07:21:03 #0

20 acres

Joe: I noticed that you posted 3 times. Is that because real estate is all about Location, Location, Location? 10 acres where I live in NE Oklahoma is isolated enough for me. My son built the house we now live in several years ago. It's 3000 square feet. It also has a 40 x 50 shop.(See picture under my name). The nearest town, Jay, is about 16 miles away. He figured out that with he and his wife, 4 kids, work, church, and school, they were making a minimum of 4 round trips a day to town. sometimes as many as 6 or 7. He bought a house in town with 17 acres and they save enough on gas to make the house payment. Not to mention time saved. This place is free and clear, so our rent goes to taxes and insurance. My wife now has her quilting machine set up and has started holding classes here.

Buck Brown - Thu 13 Dec 2018 15:24:21 #0


Sandpile e-mailed me awhile back and said his puter had dropped this site and could I send him the addy so he could get back on.

I sent it to him, but have not heard back from him. I sent two more notes asking if he was receiving my mail, and haven't heard anything for a couple weeks.

Maybe I have his addy wrong. If any of you have his addy could you please send him what he needs? Thanks in advance, Buck. Also, ask him to e-mail me so I can verify his addy.

Darrell - Thu 13 Dec 2018 18:54:52 #0


I reset his password for him on the 4th.

Tom C - Sat 15 Dec 2018 09:12:47 #0

I got my Chevy back from the painters Thursday. There's a pic in the gallery.

Tom C

Chuck - Sat 22 Dec 2018 23:26:02 #0


We have been spending a lot of time on the road.
I forget to check the Outlook mail.
TOM C. The 'Handyman' is going to be great. Lots of time and effort but looks like it might be what you want.

JOE--We live eight from Dalhart. Almost a hundred from a Doctor(Amarillo). We turned down some nice money for our little 13.5 acres. Now with all our health problems and having to drive so much. We are second thinking the deal. Probably missed the peak appeal to the young folks wanting this place.

BUCK ---I sent you another reply. I have several addys for you and Linda.
I used the coyote44Gmail tonight.

LOMAN---Some of the hottest days I can remember were at MOFFAT, OK---FT. Smith horse sale. Also the Russellville Ark. cow sales in the summer. East of TULSA there have been rumors of hens laying boiled eggs.LOL.

Helen's eye sight is playing out faster than mine.--My neck arteries are almost closed down---Trying to get them fixed before they do close completely. The holidays seem to be more important than my blockage
Had the heart and neck cath. Wednesday scared the cardiologist that did the procedure.
He told me I was in need of a Vascular Surgeon---told the wife I had bad blockage in both sides of the neck.
Then we could not get anything out of any of them, until after the holidays---Phone says if it is an emergency go to the E.R. I have had some, what they call, 'Mini Strokes' the thigh muscle on the right side is the only noticeable thing.
I got another handle of JIM BEAM. and will make out the best I can till they get back from the Bahamas or ski trips.
DARRELL--BRUCE----- CY walked 15 feet yesterday and almost stood up by himself.

MIKE MILLER--You are a prince. Thanks for all your help.
ALL THE KNIFEMAKERS have been great.
THANKS for the help with CY WAGNER.

God is good.
Blessings to all

Tom C - Sun 23 Dec 2018 11:41:29 #0

Welcome back, Chuck! I hope the docs can get those arteries reamed out. That's really scary.

Great news about Cy. That's what we want, progress.

Meanwhile, Merry Christmas to you & Helen.

Tom C

brucegodlesky - Mon 24 Dec 2018 06:59:11 #0

Merry Christmas

to each and every one.
Tom, thats a dandy lookin' car!
Sandpile, hang in there! Tell Cy the same.
The whack in the head I took in September set me back a bit. Now I'm 2 steps behint instead of 1. (BOG)
I've decided to stop taking orders come Jan.1. If ya like it, ya buy it. If not someone else will......
Dreamt last night I was selling my anvils and hammers. Horror of horrors..heheheheheheheeh

Jeff Reinhardt - Mon 24 Dec 2018 07:09:22 #0

Merry Christmas

To each and all, may you have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

Darrell - Mon 24 Dec 2018 12:23:37 #0

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas everyone.

Chuck - Tue 25 Dec 2018 00:01:00 #0

Good Times.

This is the best time of the year for lots of families.
The clans gather, the games, contests and ribbing of anybody that leaves an opening.

We are going to have pretty quiet Christmas dinner.
Cy is locked down Sheri, Scott and Brady will be with him.
Our youngest daughter, Jimmie Dee and Tanner will be here, maybe my brother, Jim and his bride of 60 years.

We have so much to be thankful for. We are just glad we can all honor the Lord's birthday.
We hope all of you are healthy, fed, warm and comfortable this coming year.
Darrell, again thanks for the effort of keeping our site open.
Blessing to all.

Alex Ivey - Tue 25 Dec 2018 01:13:21 #0


Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas. We do have so much to be thankful for as Chuck said. Reflecting back on this time last year the wife was facing chemotherapy treatments followed by radiation after surgery for uterine cancer. The treatments were tough on her but somehow she made it through them. She had a CT scan about three weeks ago and I'm happy to say it showed no sign if cancer. We are so grateful to our good Lord answering our many prayers.

Chuck we pray for Cy's recovery every time we are at Sunday Mass and Darrell I to thank you again for hosting this forum LXIV,

Tom C - Mon 31 Dec 2018 11:01:30 #0

Happy New Year, everybody! Let's hope for a healthy & less contentious 2019.

Tom C

brucegodlesky - Tue 01 Jan 2019 07:34:30 #0

Happy New Year to all the smiths here! Lets hope 2019 is a bit smoother...:-)

Chuck - Wed 02 Jan 2019 00:43:55 #0

Catching up.

HAPPY NEW YEAR---Everybody. 2018 was a good year even if we did hit hard spots.
We are still here for the next round.
ALEX-- Thanks Cy will make if he can ever get the skull flap put back in. He is gaining everyday.

BRUCE- Y'all stay warm. Stay safe.

Blessing to everyone.
Have a great year


Tom C - Thu 10 Jan 2019 15:51:49 #0


Well I'm getting ready to go to the first event of the year, the annual Bill Gichner Memorial Hammer-In. It's located on Dave Hutcheson's place near Easton Maryland & is this weekend. It's a pretty good get together with several demos & some tailgating if it's not to frigid. I'll post pics.

Tom C

Joe Rollings - Thu 24 Jan 2019 21:54:21 #0

still kickin'

Sorry I have been ignoring y'all for so long. been a bit crazy here and I have been distracted by my grandkids having babies without my or Janet's permission..... :) Nice they are actually married in this day and age. Got three greats now, and the tables have turned for sure, because this next generation seems to run to males. Our 5 were girls and most of theirs likewise.

My grandmother always told me that when male births are prevalent we are heading for a war. I think maybe we are already in one.

Chuck, you and yours are in our prayers, and the rest of y'all as well. I will try to be more frequent around here this year......Joe

brucegodlesky - Sat 02 Feb 2019 07:05:36 #0


if ol Phil sees his shadow today.......
Single digits all week have kept the shop at a standstill.
This week looks a lot better, 50 degree difference. Geez!!

Thanks darrell for keeping this site open!

brucegodlesky - Sun 03 Feb 2019 08:24:38 #0


Does anyone have a sure-fire easy way of cleaning India stones? I have a nice lil collection of them and they are all kinda clogged up.
I've heard all sorts of ways from soaking in coal oil to baking.

Loren T - Tue 05 Feb 2019 06:43:20 #0

Cleaning Stones

Stone in it's natural state is subjected to water all the time. I would think that soaking them in warm water with some Dawn dish washing detergent would cut the oils and brushing with a bristle brush would remove the particles. Then a GOOD rinsing soak or 2 and finally air drying. Trying one would tell you.

While I'm here, it's time to say I hope and pray for y'alls health problems to be successfully handled. I haven't done well in the shop for a couple years, and have been having chest pains. Angiogram determined clear arteries, but a bad heart valve. Waiting to get a new one soon. I have been told by several people that I will feel like a new man. Here's hoping.....

Darrell - Tue 05 Feb 2019 14:39:36 #0

Heart valve

Loren, Go for the pig valve as you don't have to do blood thinner as you do with the mechanical ones.
You WILL feel like a new man. I went from just moving too much energy.

Chuck - Fri 08 Feb 2019 00:14:47 #0


LOREN-- Hope everything goes good for you.
They cleaned one side of my neck, will do the other side probably in May.
Hope this side works. I don't seem to run into as many door facings and not passed out since the over haul.
Funny thing about failing health. Wife and kids worry more than you do.

BUT when Helen stumps her toe it scares the fire out of me. They were trying to drain a pint off of her day before yesterday and the damn thing quit running.
Her blood is too sticky, hemocrats are tooo high.

Doctor did not call back---pissed me off.
CY WAGNER our second Grandson finally made it to Craig Re -Hab Hospital in Denver.
JOE-- BENNIE WOOLEY passed he was BILL JOHN"S(Cimarron, & Miami) brother. That makes a clean sweep on all the Wooley siblings.
It was Bennie's son CHIP that won the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness a few years back
Good night all
God Bless everyone of you.
BRUCE get some long handles and ear flaps for the shop.

Bert - Fri 08 Feb 2019 12:17:56 #0


Sandpile, I have personal experience with both erythrocytosis and concomitant polycythemia; thick blood and high hemoglobin counts. The hematocrit is also known as packed cell volume and is measure of the number of red blood cells you have in a given volume of blood. Normally the medico's want to see you at 40-45% red blood cells. You will have high hemoglobin according to how many extra blood cells you have as a percentage of the blood volume. Top of the red cell scale for folks is 45, top of the scale for hemoglobin is 17. My blood gets sucked 1st of every month, my hematocrit runs 50.5 to 52 but has been as high as 55. Hemoglobin runs right around 18.5 but has been over 19. I just tell folks normal people have 30 wt blood and I have 90 wt headed for gear oil...

Docs are all over the map on causes from diet to malfunctioning CPAP machine, carbon monoxide exposure, to genetics to a mild (if there is such a thing?) form of leukemia.

First thing might be to be sure Helen doesn't have sleep apnea. Apnea causes low blood oxygen which causes the kidneys to secrete a hormone that tells your body to make more red cells. Next would be bunch of blood tests for genetic DNA markers. Last resort, which I haven't had and am trying to avoid, is a bone marrow biopsy.

Also, I take a baby aspirin every morning. But that needs to be cleared through Helen's doc first. Aspirin doesn't 'thin' blood like a lot of people think. It binds with the red cell's wall and makes it harder for the red cells to stick together and form a clot. Kinda like WD40 for your blood.

About Craig Hospital. A year after graduating from the Air Force Academy, my favorite nephew got his skivvies in a wad over some female and got on his motorcycle drunk, no helmet, short and a t-shirt. He went through a chain link fence and landed on the right front of his skull. After a long stint, like Cy, in ICU in CO Springs he went to Craig. I went back to Denver to check the place out, his family lives in Hawaii.

Craig is FIRST CLASS, State of the Art; the physical, mental and emotional therapy programs they have for brain injuries are amazing. Koa will never be completely recovered but 3 years down the road come Memorial Day he's a walking, talking, living by and supporting himself young man.

Docs told me the keys to recovery for young people are their inherent physical strength and their determination to recover. My own observation is it's PTSD and one of the keys is to not accept and use as an excuse for not trying, but to learn to live with and work with any limitations one might have.

Cy couldn't be in a better place to begin his recovery.


Chuck - Sun 17 Feb 2019 19:05:24 #0

BERT'S post.

BERT: Very interesting post on the blood deal. They put Helen on a CPAP machine. Been three weeks we cannot see any difference. But will stay with it till the next blood-work. She has been having high hematocrits--52-- hemoglobins at 18.
Helen is allergic to Aspirin.
We are trying to get a hold of this condition. Hematocrits seem to be as sticky as bubble gum.

I had this blood disorder a few years back. I had a massive heart attack.
I quit smoking, changed my diet, had radiation for Prostrate cancer and the last couple of blood work-ups show my Hemacrits below 45, HG at 15.5====Have not had to drain anything in almost a year.
Cy seems to be coming around some. Slow process, but he is determined to get better. His Mama Sheri and for the most part his wife Laekyn have been with him every day for six months. His brother Brady stayed in the room with him for 4 months. NWTH in Amarillo put him in a big ICU room and put two day-beds in CY's room. He has had support from all of us. Prayer warriors and the Good Lord are what has kept him going. Then he is as tough as an ole Blue Tick Hound-- that has helped him also.
BERT thanks for the info. I read it to Helen.
Blessings to all

Loren T - Fri 01 Mar 2019 05:56:34 #0

Heart Valve

Went in Tuesday at 6 AM, had new valve by 10 AM, Had lunch at 11:30. Went home Wednesday. Walked 1500 steps Thursday (in honor of the patron god of smithing ).
Wish I'd had it done couple years ago. SOOO looking forward to getting back in the shop.

Chuck - Tue 05 Mar 2019 22:21:02 #0

Loren T

LOREN T--- that is great.
Glad to hear the good news.
Just don't over do it for a bit.
It is nice to have a new lease on life.
Makes sure the A.C. keeps working the cool weather will over before we know it.
Good luck
God Bless all of you.

Alex Ivey - Wed 06 Mar 2019 21:17:49 #0


Chuck, I'm still praying for Cy. Good to see there's progress.

Tom C., Chevy wagon is looking great, sorry I didn't get to see you at the Richmond Conf. Maybe NY.

Loren, happy to see the new heart valve is working for you.

Been kind of quite here as of late, March already and only 13 post this year, so thought I'd stick one in.

Gas $1.72/gal at Sams, propane .60/lb, We've had pretty good winter moisture, life is good.

Joe, hope you can find a good neighbor taker on the 20 acres, can't be me I like it here in Bosque Farms. I still have HP cylinders for you. Wanted to ask if you know Pep Gomez over in Las Cruces, he is doing some fantastic pattern weld, using a modified Cliff Carrol gas forge, no flux. I visited his well equiptd shop a while back. Check it out google "lost arts forge" and you can see page after page of his work.

Anyone hear how Sweany is doing with his heart problems, last heard from here back Nov. last year. Also John Odom??

Anyone know a source for a 10 inch serrated contact wheel,70 duro rubber, bearings for 1/2 inch bolt, lots of them on ebay but all have 30 mm bore.

Darrell, can,t thank you enough for this site, thank you thank you. LXIV,

Chuck - Mon 11 Mar 2019 18:41:16 #0


ALEX IVEY-- Glad to see your post. Cy is a bit better.
How about Kay and Joe. I am almost afraid to ask.
Michael Miller lives pretty close to Sweaney AND Mills. I will see if Mike knows anything about James.
They all are members of the (damn old man's syndrome)---SALTFORK Blacksmithing.
LOREN hope your back jumping the rope and getting shape.
JOE-- Don't be too quiet too long. They will start saying Hail Marys and talking about good a fellow you were.
We have CY'S Dad"s bitch and half a dozens pups. They are almost for weeks old.
Really good set of registered Red Asussie pups. CY is in Crag Re-Hap in Englewood, Colo. and his Dad is teaching in Lake Arthur, NM.
Scott needed a little help, whelping this gyp and raising the pups.
Blessings to all
Thanks Darrell.

brucegodlesky - Tue 19 Mar 2019 10:47:44 #0

ridin' the roller coaster here in w Pa. One day warm and sunny then 2 days snow and rain, then freezin' cold. Over and over.
Gettin' a day in the forge shop here and there. hammer is still heaved so it's all handwork and press.

Sweany is on the mend. Kinda think this slowed him down a bunch.

Lost 2 dogs in a space of 3 days. Kinda quiet round here...... The remaining one, Bell, keeps kinda lookin' sideways at me......... Sure she wonders where her buddies went to....
I've had dogs around all my life. It don't get any easier losing them.

Seems like I spend the first several months of each year doing donation knives. Now to get down to makin' some cash. Ha!

Tom C - Mon 01 Apr 2019 09:20:58 #0

One of the earliest pieces of metalwork I did, back in '77, is being removed from the establishment where it was installed. The new owners haven't said where it's going. You know you've been around for a while when your early creations become surplus. I put a couple of pics in the gallery.

Tom C

Mike B - Mon 01 Apr 2019 19:19:16 #0


I'd be hard pressed to name three restaurants that have been in business since '77. I give all the credit to your artwork (grin).

Chuck - Thu 04 Apr 2019 00:36:09 #0

lost memebers

It is sad to think about all the folks that have quit posting on our site.
It would be nice to find out how Mills, the Davis', Franklin, James Sweaney are doing. The Saltfork Blacksmithing bunch is a great group.
THOMAS POWERS is probably going strong if he has not gotten too bad on the diabetics.
JOE how you feeling ?
Alex How is Joe and Kay Cordova. How is Jerry Duran. He probably won't remember me.
The sad part about growing older ---is the loss of contact with the people you have met.

I went through medical test today that turned my deal around. The deal I have been putting up turns out to be a big kidney stone that is not really painful but is causing problems. May get it out in the next little bit.
God Bless all

Buck Brown - Thu 04 Apr 2019 11:28:34 #0

Hopefully there are a lot of folks, like me, that read every day but don't post enough.

Chuck, I'm glad you found out the reason for your troubles. Get rid of that rascal. Don't know if you have ever had one that decided to travel, but it's no picnic I can tell you!

It's finally spring here in northern Arizona/southern Utah. We had a wonderful wet winter, the first in over 20 years. We've already had as much rain this year as we had all last year. Western Colorado has had record snowfall. We're hoping the runoff will greatly raise the level of Lake Powell. It's in sad shape now at 50% elevation.

Thanks again, Darrell!

Jeremy K - Thu 04 Apr 2019 11:36:16 #0

Tom C

Tom that is a great piece you did - did you ask if they are not going to use it that you'd be interested in it? No sense in it getting tossed out and not being used somewhere.

plain ol Bill - Sun 14 Apr 2019 17:54:17 #0

The beast has returned

I made this hammer about 20 years or so ago and used it for many years. Ended up selling to a good friend and bought a Sahinler. Sold the Sahinler a couple of years ago. Well the friend passed on just before Christmas and the hammer came home. It started out with a Kinyon control system and my friend put the KZ controls on it. The bae is 5" plate, the anvil is 9" round 4140. The rear riser and head are made of 6X6X3/8 tubing and can be moved up or down in 2" increments (to allow for any tooling I could think of). All bolted together using 3/4 grade 8 bolts. The cylinder is 2 1/2 X 12 w/ 1/2" ports. The hammer itself weighs in around 115# and runs on brass slides.
After bringing it home I did remount the controls to suit me, replaced the old 2"cylinder and generally tweaked it. I DO LIKE these controls! Much better controls than the old Kinyon were. I see how Ken Zitur can crack an egg on his hammer using these controls.
Have not posted in a long time, but do still read the forum. Thought you folks might like to hear from me (still alive and well out here).
Pics up!

Chuck - Sat 20 Apr 2019 00:24:05 #0

This and that.

Since my blade making Grandson is laid up.. Bad car wreck August 13TH.
CY Wagner was going to be the one to take hold, go to making knives Axes. All kinds of blacksmithing.
Up to date Cy can not get out bed by himself. He has just the last week started, kinda controlling his right side.
God willing he will gradually get more back.

The good Doctor went in after the kidney stone---Got it broke up and it is coming out. Has been a bit of a grimace. Kinda makes a fellow thank he might be pulling fish hooks out.
The did find a small cancer in the bladder. They sent it off to confirm what they think. Small, it s out and we will find out more Monday.
They will work out a program to chase this devil out.

BUCK sure glad you got some good moisture. We all need it.
Wednesday evening we got a nice 3/4 inch rain. They got a lot more east of us(always do).
I did get a hold of ED FOWLER at 1519 Riverton WY He and BILL BURKE from Salmon, IDAHOin conjunction REX WALTERS(meltalogist have developed the right procedure to make a high performance blade from 52100E steel.
I am up on most of this, but the way my wheels are starting to wobble, I want some way of making sure my other grandsons have a way get back to the good blades. ED has a 2 DVD that runs four hours. It is a detailed teaching video.
$55.00 for the two. Glad to get it.
Y 'all take care, keep the shiny side
God Bless

Joe Rollings - Sat 20 Apr 2019 21:00:41 #0

testing, having trouble

Joe Rollings - Sat 20 Apr 2019 21:30:08 #0

Lots of stuff

I tried to post a few times and could not get in. All of a sudden I seem to be doing it right again, so will try to cover some lost ground.

Chuck, I am feeling a lot better than I deserve, and my limiting factors right now are mainly the knees and swollen ankles and feet from standing at the machines. Prayers up for Cy and for you and Helen. Made and wholesaled a bunch of knives, bought a cowboy sewing machine for the sheaths, will see how the knives go at retail before making a lot more of them. Now off on making candle cups and mounting them on rocks. After 30 years of making the same boxes over and over again, I seem to have to switch products regularly or lose my mind. Having fun with the 100 pound guided helve hammer named "Alice", though. Named that because of the Allis Chalmers orange paint job.

Alex, if you are having trouble still mounting 30 MM bearings on a 1/2" shaft, I would be happy to turn you some bushings on the lathe, OR make the mounting bolt to match the bearing. I have a LOT of lathe stock, so I would be happy to do it for free.

Gotta get with the cannon guy and find out of that deal is for real or just talk. I have been out of touch with him, too. I hope to be circulating up your direction before long to service some dealers, and really should make the cannon whether he wants it or not.

I keep slowing down, but I can still move around and do stuff, so no excuse for quitting. I DO want to see if I can cobble together an induction forge for those candle cups. Having a gas forge running in that steel building this summer does not fill my heart with joy. At least the induction forge would run only a little of the time and would not be bothered by the swamp cooler.

I got lazy last summer, but it did not improve my life a bit, so am going to stay busy this summer as much as the heat will allow. Plenty to do, so might as well do it the best I can. God bless Y'all…...Joe

brucegodlesky - Mon 22 Apr 2019 06:20:04 #0

Glad I'm not the only one gettin' old.......heheheh
Weather breaking and it's nice to be back in the shop. Was down for 2 weeks with the crud. So far behind, I'm catching up to myself.
Spring turkey season fast approaching so I'll be a lot more behinder.....

I see that the Pa boys, Jymm Hoffman and Ray Rybar are demoing at BAM this year. Both are good guys!

Darrell - Thu 25 Apr 2019 14:29:20 #0


The Californicated Republic of Oregon is out except for a short stay for medical reasons.
Still looking for a reasonable place to set down.

Tom C - Fri 26 Apr 2019 08:43:41 #0

Bruce, if you're lucky, you get old.

I've been working away on my car project & have all the trim on the outside. when I put in the windshield, the outside of the car is done. I've started back up on finishing the wiring which isn't too difficult thanks to the kit I got from American Autowiring. The directions are really complete with lots of diagrams. All the wires are marked as to what they do. I wish I could say when I'll have it on the road, but, as in life, you never know what problems will pop up & thwart your progress. (right Chuck?)

Tom C

Bert - Sat 27 Apr 2019 16:37:34 #0

Darrell's Quest

Darrell, I've been studying the Western states looking for a home outside Oregon for 10+ years. Don't want to clutter the site with all that discussion though. Options depend on what's important to you and family priorities: health care, taxes, politics, environment (mountains, ocean, lakes, wilderness, hunting, fishing, camping etc). I'd make a list of your 'life need priorities' first and then we can talk options...

For me, Wyoming is best: Lowest tax rate for retirees, reasonable health care, lots of outdoor recreation and I can take the weather because I grew up in the Western states. However, my wife needs no place colder than Western OR, excellent health care (she has Crohn's Disease), consistent/reliable access to fresh organic fruits and veggies (Crohn's & lifestyle prefs) and politics more liberal than mine, but then she says mine are somewhere Right of Atilla the Hun...

If I had to guess right now, we will end up with a small place in Wyo and a homestead in a warmer place w/ better health care and I might end up commuting between the two... But that's us, you and yours will be different.

Bye the bye, I'm in Kamuela but I'm on 7x24 caregiver watch for my mom until my sis and I can find a suitable adult foster care for her that's near Kamuela...


Darrell - Sat 27 Apr 2019 19:12:48 #0


You are just North of me. I am in Ocean View.
We are taking a hard look at Nevada at this time.
Will let you know how it turns out.

Bert - Sat 27 Apr 2019 22:28:37 #0

Nevada is good except for the Reno & Vegas metro areas. They're being invaded by Kalifornicators too. No state income tax, pretty good health care and there's a lot more to Nevada than desert. My gramps lived in Vegas for 40+ years and we toured an awful lot of the state hunting, fishing and collecting pine nuts...


Joe Rollings - Sat 04 May 2019 22:05:17 #0


If you want to be left strictly alone by the government and the world, I have a few parcels near Rodeo, NM that we will be selling over the next few years that one can build, work and live on without any interference whatsoever.

One can drive for hours in search of a traffic light.....Joe

Darrell - Sun 05 May 2019 13:34:50 #0


Actually thinking of a piece next to a hwy to make a gift shop/snack shop.

plain ol Bill - Sun 05 May 2019 18:12:06 #0

Rodeo NM

We spent 2 weeks at Rusty's RV park in Rodeo last winter. It is out in the middle of nowhere and boy did we enjoy it. Get back in those mountains and there are some really gorgeous places.

Alex Ivey - Fri 10 May 2019 12:59:33 #0

Joe Rollings

Joe I appreciate your offer on the bushings for the 30 mm contact wheel bore but it's on hold for now. It was for a friend and fellow NMABA member who is building a second belt grinder like the one I showed in photos I posted a while back. He wanted the second grinder to have at his home as his shop is located a good distance away. I ordered the 4 wheel set for him on ebay. Unfortunately his wife passed suddenly a few days after my Mar.6th post so it's on hold at least for now. I still have HP cylinders for you if you are ever up this way. LXIV,

Alex Ivey - Mon 20 May 2019 14:24:07 #0

10 serrated contact wheel

Found a 10 inch contact wheel with 1/2 inch bearings installed on ebay. It arrived today and looks very good $120. + $10. shipping. I purchased it for another NMABA member. LXIV,

Loren T - Tue 21 May 2019 07:22:25 #0

Contact wheel

I have spent the last several hours trying to visualize a contact wheel installed on an ebay. Please help!

Mike B - Tue 21 May 2019 20:01:40 #0

As long as it's a 1/2" ebay, I don't see the problem.

Joe Rollings - Fri 24 May 2019 13:03:32 #0


Plain old Bill, if you get back next winter, lemme know, in case your hammer hand goes into withdrawal. Always something around to beat on, and I can see Rusty's from my yard, although we are up the side of the valley.....Joe

plain ol Bill - Fri 24 May 2019 22:02:47 #0


Wish I had known you were there Joe. I would have come over and visited. Some beautiful country back up in those mountains. Easy to see why the army had a really tough time rousting the apaches out of there.

brucegodlesky - Sat 25 May 2019 14:09:15 #0


Hope you folks in Twister Alley are keepin' yer heads down. Sweany emailed and said they were spending some time underground........
Ten Hammers told mke he still has water lying in the yard from last weeks storms. I heard the Missourri smiths got hit pretty good.
By the time they have been getting here in w Pa it's just a hard rain.
Spent the past month in the timber huntin' spring gobblers. Good for the mental health. Have just enuff energy when I get done each day to bang out a few billets. Have a big show coming up next month, Pa Trappers Convention. Really a fun time connecting with other trappers/knifemakers/smiths. Gonna spend a few days next week knocking out trinkets, squirrel forks/flippers, etc. The ladies buy that stuff up as well as the guys.

Darrell - Wed 26 Jun 2019 15:04:29 #0


It has been more than a month since the last post.
The rest of this website is no longer relavent.
When the hosting for the website runs out I will not be renewing it.
It has been a long and enjoyable run. I will be seeing some of you on FaceBook.


Chuck - Thu 27 Jun 2019 22:42:50 #0

Lost site.

DARRELL It is our own fault for not paying attention to your very good site.
As you know I personally have had a plate full.
My Grand-son Cy Wagner is gaining each day. Some day in the future he will walk alone.
He is starting to talk some. He has been out f the hospital one month. He had ten month in the hospital.
Myself-- I have just about got over the huge impacted stone in my right kidney,
the left one is still there but not causing too much trouble. The good news about the kidney stone---when the Doctor went to see about breaking up the stone and found/ removed a small cancer in my bladder. It will be recurring but we will watch it.
The left carotid(sp) surgery was successful--they will do the right in the future.
Today I made the first knife in almost a year. Simple but the grind came out alright. Had mini strokes but nothing bad.
Sorry about being remiss about posting.
I do appreciate the lengthy time you have kept this site up and going.
God Bless everybody that has been on Farwest Forge. I will miss all of you
It has been a good long run from Neil's "Junkyard" site to the finish of Darrell's.
Blessing to all.

Jeff Reinhardt - Fri 28 Jun 2019 16:44:26 #0

Sorry to see it go, checked daily, just did not have anything to add. Thanks for the good job.

Tom C - Sun 30 Jun 2019 07:59:03 #0

I'm guilty of just reading & not posting. I haven't done much forging work since I started my car restoration project. I have met some great friends through Keenjunk & then this site. But things change & move on. Thanks for stepping up when Neil shut down.

Ill post a pic of the Chevy this afternoon.

Be well,
Tom C

Tom C - Mon 01 Jul 2019 07:08:14 #0

I posted a pic in the gallery.

brucegodlesky - Mon 01 Jul 2019 12:04:22 #0

old and slow

reckon we're all gettin' that way......
Darrell, where you at on FB?
Hope to see some of you in Ohio in September

Darrell - Mon 01 Jul 2019 16:09:54 #0


Look for Darrell Gehlsen on FB.

Loren T - Sat 06 Jul 2019 07:05:54 #0

Changing Times

I want to thank you Darrell for hosting this site since the end of Keen Junk. In view of your announcement I have gone back over the archives and seen a lot of names that have passed on. I have noticed the gradual thinning of the "Herd" that is still active in smithing and contributes to this forum. Health problems have been a big factor in having less to contribute or inquire. I for one have not forged anything for 2 years save a couple small items my better half asked for. I worry about the future of the trade as fewer youngsters seem to be interested in working with their hands. That being said, I was 24 before I picked up a hammer and forged my first spearpoint. I just turned 74 on the 4th. My 11 year old grandson is smart as a whip, but only wants to play video games. Yet I saw him get on my son's track hoe and almost immediately master the controls. It was just like different video controls. NASCAR drivers are younger than ever because they learned on video how to drive. With You Tube, how to do ANYTHING is just a click away. AND...a picture is worth a thousand words. I will continue to monitor this site as well as others. Once again thank you Darrell.

Chuck - Sat 13 Jul 2019 00:30:36 #0

Site changing management.

There might be someone interested in keeping our group afloat.
It would be nice to have a someone pick up the reins.
Blesings to all
Good luck

Chuck - Tue 23 Jul 2019 00:18:26 #0


Are we still pn board?

Darrell - Tue 23 Jul 2019 09:00:37 #0


Until the hosting package runs out in Setember.

Tom C - Thu 08 Aug 2019 07:15:26 #0

I finished the car

I have finished my 1957 Chevy 210 Handyman station wagon. It took about 2,000 hours over 3 years & 5 months and $30,000. I've put some photos in the gallery. Now, I can get back to making my sculptures & do some traveling.I plan to drive it to Quad States.

I'm glad you're keeping the site up a little while longer,Darrell so I'll have time to get some pix from the gallery.

Thanks again for your hosting all these years.

Tom C

Mike B - Wed 28 Aug 2019 19:14:12 #0

Looks amazing, Tom. I'm sure you would have finished in 3 years flat if we hadn't had to cancel Spring Fling this year (grin). Things are looking good for April 17-19, 2020; hope to see you, and ideally the car, then.

Chuck - Wed 28 Aug 2019 23:22:25 #0


Well we are fixing to lose this site.
God Bless to every pea-picking of you.
You cn find me on Facebook.
God Bless you Darrell and all the rest of the good folks on here.

Tom C - Sun 22 Sep 2019 19:21:55 #0

Happy trails

I don't know if this site is still active. It doesn't show up on a Google search.I guess it is because I'm filling out this form. Thanks, Darrell for hosting this get-together. I've met some great folks here & learned a lot along the way.
Tom C

Alex Ivey - Wed 25 Sep 2019 18:21:53 #0

Thanks Darrell & stuff

Darrell I can't thank you enough carrying on this site that started with Neil, it's been a great run and I am saddened to see it coming to an end. I don't do facebook and twitter so I won't be seeing any of you from here over there. Planning to attend the ABANA conf. in NY so maybe we can connect there. I plan on going to Tucumcari Rawhide Days next May if Jim Keith does the smithing event so Chuck maybe I'll see you there.

Our NMABA Oct. 12th meeting will be at Helmut Hellenkamp's shop in Santa Fe. Some ABANA atendees will be there to honor Frank Turley for 50 years teaching at his Blacksmithing school. The details no finalized yet are on our website at You all are welcome to come as our guest. LXIV,

Bruce Blackistone (Atli) - Fri 27 Sep 2019 22:18:49 #0


Good luck and God speed to you all. It's been interesting.

Darrell - Fri 27 Sep 2019 22:37:46 #0


Well goodby every one. It has been fun.
Darrell Gehlsen
808 313 2593

Joe Rollings - Mon 30 Sep 2019 09:08:28 #0

last post?

Sorry I missed the ending. Just had a new heart valve put in, and getting back in shape.....Joe

Joe Rollings - Thu 03 Oct 2019 22:34:18 #0


could I get a phone number?....thanks.....Joe

Loren T - Fri 04 Oct 2019 10:31:23 #0

Joe Rollings

Congrats on the new heart valve. TAVR ? or open chest. I got mine in Feb and am a new man. (No questionable gender)

Darrell - Fri 04 Oct 2019 11:04:10 #0


I had a TAVR two weeks ago. Thay sewed my artery shut and I lost blood flow to my leg.
They did this on the 16th. On the 18th I went back into surgery to fix the artery.
When they went to wake me up they gave me a drug to reverse the heprin blood thinner.
That made my heart stop for 90 seconds. I woke up with a very sore chest.
Thanks to the Lord, I am feeling fine now.

plain ol Bill - Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:15:52 #0


Darrell waking up after procedures like that is a blessing and the Lord was looking on. A sore chest ain't nuthin compared to not waking up. Thanks for all the years of keeping this going after Keen Junk years. Too many of the old ones gone now.

Darrell - Sat 05 Oct 2019 10:48:23 #0

This site

I remember there were those that said I would never last.
While this site is coming to an end, it not because of fighting or spam.
You all have been great friends. It is just time to move on.
I am moving to Myrtle Creek, Oregon. I have just bought a new house.
The address is:
14486 Old Hwy 99 S.
Myrtle Creek, Oregon 97457
Stop in if you are in the area. Phone # 808 313-2593

Loren T - Sun 06 Oct 2019 09:31:55 #0

Myrtle Creek

You are definitely relocating to a nice area. I retired in 2001 at the age of 55. We traveled full time for 4 years with a pickup and 5th wheel trailer. Spent a fair amount of time in Grants Pass and also Roseburg. When traveling from Seattle to Phoenix, spent many nights at 7 Feathers casino in Canyonville.

Joe Rollings - Tue 08 Oct 2019 17:11:34 #0

heart valve

I got the TAVR, and it is a big improvement. I am having leg troubles, too, but am pretty sure it is from being idle while waiting on the you got me to thinking, though :) ….Joe

Alex Ivey - Tue 08 Oct 2019 18:30:29 #0

Farewell to you all

Darrell I know I've already said but I'm saying it again. Many many thanks to you for hosting this forum for us to hang out in, I'm gonna miss it and miss hearing from all who posted, Darrell, Chuck, Joe, Tom C, Plain ol Bill, Loren, Mike B, Bruce G, Bruce B, Jeff, Bert, Jeremy K, Buck, to name a few. Hope John O is doing ok, quite a while since his last post. I've learned something from you all. Joe my Phone number is (505)four one seven- nineteen eighty five. I posted what I think will be the last photos. LXIV,

Alex Ivey - Thu 17 Oct 2019 11:40:37 #0


Chuck, looks like we are still active here, don"t know if you are still reading. Update on Joe and Kay Cordova since you have asked in the past, I was at Joe's place a couple of days ago. They are doing ok but Joe has not worked in the shop much lately due to back problems. Jerry Duran was there using Joe's mill, he's doing well but has scaled back to being most a hobbyist again. LXIV,

Loren T - Fri 18 Oct 2019 13:15:41 #0

End of the road

Alex, it kind of reminds me the story of a fellow who was receiving a monthly publication or journal. He was no longer in that line of work, so sent an email to have the delivery stopped. He received back a letter that stated in order to cancel his publication would require a change order, a work order, an expediter, a clerk, an I.T. man, etc. After assigning a dollar figure to each process along with the labor involved, the cost would be $700 or more. It only cost $1.50 per month to send the publication. So he would continue to receive for the foreseeable future. Maybe it's the same with this site!

Darrell - Fri 18 Oct 2019 17:44:45 #0

This site

I think this site will time out the end of October.
If you want any of the pictures, now would be a good time to get them.
I seem to have forgot what little coding that I knew.

Joe Rollings - Sat 19 Oct 2019 08:47:02 #0

Thanks, all, and my email

Good talking with y'all and best of good fortune to one and all!

My email is all lower case, same as my name with a W between first and last at….. God bless....Joe and Janet

Jeremy K - Tue 22 Oct 2019 08:00:36 #0


Sorry it's been a while since I visited here - sad to see another site come to an end. Wish I knew more of you personally. Take care everyone, hope to see you somewhere down the line, not sure where everyone is going - I didn't pick that up if it was facebook or other social media. Darrel - have a good recovery and move to the mainland. - JK

Alex Ivey - Tue 29 Oct 2019 22:22:35 #0

So long and posted photo

I posted one last photo. I just had to do it one last time since I guess I'll never get to post photos again. It's my 150 lb hay budden with clip shelf. It was in pretty bad shape, rebuilt recently by Robb Gunter, good as new now and value greatly increased. A last good by to anyone still checking in and a last big thank you Darrell. LXIV,

Joe Rollings - Tue 05 Nov 2019 10:06:49 #0

Still standing!

Maybe it will just go on forever....last site to wither away during the rapture...I'll check in periodically, since it is turning into a bit of a mystery, now.....Joe

Alex Ivey - Tue 05 Nov 2019 19:10:09 #0

Still lurcking

Looks like we're still alive here, at least Joe and me. Joe did you get my phone number you ask for, it's in my post back on Oct 8/ LXIV,

Jeremy K - Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:42:44 #0


Well like Alex says - "still alive"
Wish I had more to contribute lately but been busy getting ready for winter... firewood detail, yard clean up, etc.
Although I will add that I was able to be one of the demonstrators for the Guild of Metalsmiths for their fall conference this fall (September), Had a great time demonstrating for them, 14 hrs. worth in 2 days - seen many I haven't seen for awhile, was good to touch bases with all of them. As always, some I found have passed, but I cherished the ones I was able to see again, as it has been awhile since I had been to that conference until I was able to demo for them. Cheers Everyone - Jeremy K

Alex Ivey - Sun 10 Nov 2019 23:59:47 #0

Single Six Cylinder

Joe Rollings, If you,re still checking in maybe you can help. I have a Ruger old model single-six with 22 mag cylinder and was told by a friend there is a guy in Silver City who can make a 22 LR cylinder to fit it making it a convertible. He doesn't have have contact info. Do you happen to know who he might be. LXIV,

Buck Brown - Tue 12 Nov 2019 09:27:14 #0

22LH cylinder

Alex....I have an old ruger revolver with both cylinders. Just for fun I checked. E-Bay has several 22 LR cylinders for sale.

Alex Ivey - Tue 12 Nov 2019 20:53:23 #0

22LR cylinder

Thanks Buck but I'm pretty sure a cylinder for the old style 3 screw must be matched with the frame. CNC milling on the new style makes more precise fit so the cylinders will interchange. LXIV,

Bruce Blackistone (Atli) - Fri 15 Nov 2019 18:28:07 #0

Bloomery Experiment

We're having an experimental bloomery session next weekend. If the experiment works, I'll experiment with posting pictures of it here.

Joe Rollings - Mon 18 Nov 2019 10:10:00 #0


Gotcher # Thanks.....Joe




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