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Chuck - Wed 10 May 2017 00:39:31 #0

Buck & LorenT.

LOREN T--I love exotic wood if I know what it is and how I am going react to it.
Love good, deep grained wood.
Exhibition(sp) grade Ironwood is beautiful. Some wood is more expensive than the knife it is put on.
BUCK- Thanks. Helen is still kicking, just not as high as she once did. We may have figured out the cause of her severe pain. We think it is Pancreas related.
The doctors are all agreed-It is not her Pancreas.
We will continue to help them fund their kids college funds. Have to do this till they stumble on to the correct diagnosis.
We are almost positive it is her Pancreas
One of our Grand-daughters has --GENECTIC PANCREAITOS. Severe pain and all the symptoms Helen has.
We go again tomorrow for another 'Sonar' test.
God Bless

Loren T - Wed 10 May 2017 11:59:11 #0


Not only does ironwood not float, it does not burn unless you have an abundance of other wood with it in the fire. Also, it will burn out a good chainsaw blade in nothing flat. In the woodworking club in Sun City and in the lapidary club are signs, "No Grinding or Polishing of Ironwood".

Joe Rollings - Thu 11 May 2017 10:47:14 #0

ironwood and O'sage

My friend used to go to where the Seri Indians did their ironwood carvings down in Mexico, and buy the ones tha t got ruined, them slab them up and sell the wood for knife scales.

They rough-carve those with 7 1/4" saw blades on 1/4 horse motors, no guards, hand-holding the wood. There was almost always more fingers missing from the carvers from one trip down there to the next, but they never quit until they didn't have enough left to hold the wood any more.

Chuck, when w lived up north, I used to buy mesquite logs from a guy in Clarendon, Texas, and he threw in some nice Osage Orange from time to time, but it was green and had to be cut up pronto or it would crack. Awful pretty stuff, but I never got the hang of working it.....Joe

Chuck - Thu 11 May 2017 14:40:51 #0

Osage Orange

Osage Orange wood I have and like is from corner posts that were put in the ground in 1880-4. The fence was pulled up and replaced about 1990,
They were in the ground for over a hundred years. Some of them were 8" thick. I sawed some of them up in 18" lengths. Thought how nice the end grains were threw a few aside to wait until it hit me to use it for this or that.
A while later(months)I noticed the ends had started cracking.
The next I opened up that I like I paraphened the ends. There has been a little cracking even with the paraphine(sp). The hundred years was not time to relieve the stress/moisture inside the post.
This Bois Darc is bright orange fresh-sawed or sanded but darkens with exposure.
I used it for hatchet handle, knife slab handles, hidden tang knife handles necklace crosses, mixed the saw dust with epoxy for a nice fine filler line.
It has not bothered me to use it. Some that I have got from other places have really got to me---Bout shut my chest down.
I think I have caused some of(maybe most)this by not protecting myself for too long.----


Joe Rollings - Thu 11 May 2017 22:11:34 #0

We had it in hedge rows in illinois and made a lot of posts from it, too. I tried to hang a gate from one and every time I tried to put wood screws into it I twisted them off. Dosn't like nails too much either.

Dad came along and told me that if I could get it to carry an electrical current, maybe I could weld the hinges on.... :) .....Joe

John Odom - Thu 11 May 2017 22:45:01 #0


I love it! For screws, I drill and tap and use machine screws. It does not seem to grow much around here. I glom on to any I come across.

Joe Rollings - Fri 12 May 2017 10:46:42 #0

guy selling ironwood

Chuck - Fri 12 May 2017 10:51:20 #0

Bo Darc

Bo Darc----is a hard wood--understatement.
It is like Mesquite each time it is cut, the suckers that sprout out of the root mass are HARDER than the ones cut just before them.
I have seen Bo Darc trees you could not cut, if you did not have a good set of dogs on your sharp chain saw. Just bounce off after skinning the bark up.

Bo Darc fibers are super fine. Working up a hatchet handle with a shoeing rasp will raise splinters worse than any other wood. People that don't know any better will want feel the unfinished wood. It will get them some little bitty splinters, that will break off when you try to pull them out.
Most folks shy away from old Bo Darc. It is beautiful after it is finished but some times on real flat surfaces the thin fibers will get you.
When I was a kid we carried a brace & good bit to make holes in the Bo Darc posts and some of the tight ringed, dark red, juniper corner posts.

I am like Joe's Dad anything that hard should be welded.

Chuck - Sat 20 May 2017 00:36:39 #0

Storm celler---root cellar

We are thinking of a storm /root cellar.
I have some between the rails wooden railroad crossing pads(for a better name). We are thinking maybe to dig two six inch side ditches and one end ditch. These steel re-enforced walls will be poured, then skidster dig the dirt out.
Wanting seven foot side walls. If we can't ditch this deep we will form it.
We will have a center steel I-Beam with a 4"X4" steel heavy wall tubing brace on both ends and one the in middle.
The crossing pads will set on top the 5" or 6" I-Beam and walls. Thinking we will have 12'X12' inside.
Heavy plastic and horse trailer matting on top of the crossing pads, then three foot or so of dirt.
Some kind of ventilation. We will figure the other end, door/steps when we get to it.
The reason for not poring a cement top. Ten miles from town--Might have to chain-saw, dig our way out.
I am thinking the walls, I-Beam, brace posts and 6" thick crossing pads will hold the 3' dirt on the top.
The reason for 3' of dirt on top--Radiation --if I figure out the steel door then wood at the bottom of the steps. Root cellar and food storage.
What does anybody think
Info is needed.

Joe Rollings - Sat 20 May 2017 22:38:41 #0

Quick assessment, more detail later

If your dirt is solid, you can dig a hole, pour the bottom of it with concrete, push in some rebar around the edges, Build a box 1 foot smaller than the hole, with LOTS of cribbing and sturdy reenforcements to keep it from sagging against the weight of the concrete, center it, then pour concrete around the edges, strike the top off flat, install whatever lid suits you.

I have done this a time or two for a septic tank and it worked great. Also very possible to use block to build the walls and fill the holes with more concrete. If you need to economise on the blocks, I have a block mold I'd be happy to loan you. Made it myself, and it DOES need a vibrator to get a good fill every time.

For ventilation, providing there is going to be more than one healthy arm in residence, I'd install a hand-crank forge blower of the Buffallo sort. Wouldn't need to run full-time anyhow, just change the air from time to time. Plenty of drawings of particulate traps on the web. Needs to be an exit pipe for worn-out air somewhere in the plan.

I still find sheet lead from time to time to make ML bullets, so you might find some for a radiation shield, OR you could melt it into sheets and eliminate some depth of hole.

Late in the day for me to think this all the way through, but I'll give it some more thought tomorrow or Tuesday, and re-post.....Got a full day Monday....Joe

Joe Rollings - Sat 20 May 2017 22:48:02 #0

One additional comment

I beams are REALLY expensive, and rebar is really cheap. You can pour most supporting beams and collumns FAR cheaper than you can buy them in steel. PLUS, poured walls will adhere to them MUCH better.....Joe

Chuck - Sun 21 May 2017 00:54:51 #0


JOE--I have some old five inch I-Beams(heavy). Twenty something feet of heavy wall 2"X6" tubing
I have a big coal forge, hand cranked blower. Can't think of the name right now. It is about ten or twelve inches in diameter. It would ex-change air pretty well.
Ditcher has a hoe on it. Around the walls will be shelving.
I was thinking about the extra labor to pour and stand the walls.
I have enough T posts and re-bar fence rods to tie it all together.
Have the new(un-used) sheet of 12 gauge metal and pipe for the outside door. Have some 4" heavy PVC pipe, plastic sheeting and trailer mats.
We have a home built wood or coal burning fan blown--SMALL-- stove. Could pull fresh air for its self.
All this stuff would bring very little in a sale.

Concrete, man power and more know-how is what I really need.
Still thinking about all this.

Joe Rollings - Sun 21 May 2017 20:11:14 #0

cellar and steel supplier

I'd dang sure never pour a wall and stand it up if it was going to be underground, because it is much easier to pour it in place around an existing bax form. The first one we poured we had a a couple of youn'ns scooping gravel into the mixer and we got the floor done in a couple of hours on something like a 7x10. I got down there and kinder rough finished it with a trowell. Can't recall if I used a ladder to get back out or if they tossed me a rope, but we let that set a coupld of days while I built the box form. Next time down, I kicked the form off into the hole and centered it, kids started scooping into the mixer again, job was done right after lunch. Had to tear up the box form to get it out because I hadn't made it sturdy enough and it went hour-glass shape and was trapped by the hard concrete.

One funny part was that because it was a septic tank, had to have a hole in each end of the form for the pipes to go in and out of, No jig say to cut a 6 inch hole in plywood, so I backed off a few feet with the double barrel shotgun and blew the holes out. They were close to perfect with a little knife work.

Sometimes, local concrete companies are looking for a place to dump the tag ends of loads when the customer orders more than his forms will hold. My grandaddy actually poured a full basement for the house he built by having them dump surplus loads into the forms, but he should have blown the dust off of the surface between loads, because it made little seperations and lines in the basement walls.

Now, on to business. For once in my life, I want to make some knives with no time pressure on me, because when we were still in business it was always a race with me, and I am confident I never once did my best. Pressure is off now that we sold out, and I am slowly putting the equipment back together and ordering some supplies and materials, but I cannot recall where we used to get those bars of 1095 and 5160 that were 6 feet long. Any help recalling it would be appreciated.

I DO have a LOT of leaf springs, front and rear, from an old dump truck that spent it's last days here, but trthey are so thick I'll either have to get my hammering arm back in shape or build another power hammer....Joe

Joe Rollings - Sun 21 May 2017 20:14:38 #0

Name of the steel outfit

popped into my head. It's admiral....Joe

bruce godlesky - Fri 26 May 2017 09:49:04 #0

Admiral has the best prices out there Joe. Gonna send an order in soon myself.
I have a new (to me)52 inch Simonds sawblade to whittle into pieces to mix with the 1095 for Damascus. Make sfor great contrast.
Another project I'm working on is an all Pennsylvania Damascus blade. have O1 and L6 from a local mill and looking for a Pa. made gun barrel to add to the mix.
It's spring turkey season here in Pa. and I'm prit near wore from hunting 5 days a week. More fun than squarshin' tadpoles!!!!

Joe Rollings - Fri 26 May 2017 22:51:14 #0

Why would you squarsh a tadpole?

Supposed to be specail health benifits for eating them alive!, but what do I know?.....Joe

bruce godlesky - Sat 27 May 2017 06:27:04 #0

when you was a kid ... or last week... walkin' down them 'ol 2 tracks after a rain the ruts is full of tiny tadpoles. A running leap and KER-Splash!!!
Ya mean to tell me you never did that??? Or taught yer grandkids to do it! hehehehe

God Bless all the brave servicemen and women who sacrificed all for our country.

bruce godlesky - Wed 31 May 2017 06:49:27 #0

bead blast abrasives

Whats good for cleaning up light scale/rust? I broke down and bought a cabinet box. Wanted to avoid rewgiular old playbox sand. Too abrasive imo. Walnut hulls anygood?? Enquiring minds........

Joe Rollings - Wed 31 May 2017 10:46:45 #0


You can buy ground up walnut hulls at petsmart and that is a pretty good abrasive. They use it for bedding for lizards, if you can believe it.

Take your blood pressure meds before using that blaster much. Lots of them around full of 45 caliber holes, including mine. They burn up vacuums realy fast or if you don't use the vacuum you can't see into them. A bit of moisture in the air supply makes the abrasive too wet to feed, etc. etc.

I now and for years past have taken care of rust scale, forge scale, pretty much whatever comes along with muratic acid, diluted, then into a baking soda and water bath to kill the remaining acid, then water. Use a bit of elbow grease to get off the remaining black stuff and it will be as clean as it will ever get....Joe

bruce godlesky - Wed 31 May 2017 17:58:59 #0


I'll check out the walnut hulls Joe. Happened to be in Tractor Supply this morning and lo and behold , they had 5 gal. buckets of glass bead and garnet so I brought home a bucket of beads. :-)

Joe Rollings - Thu 01 Jun 2017 16:20:05 #0

Carefull about getting it on the floor. It's dry but REALLY slippery!....Joe

bruce godlesky - Thu 01 Jun 2017 17:10:17 #0

thanks I'll keep that in mind.
I'm tryin to make room for this cabinet somewhat near the compressor. In the middle of renovations and space is limited. I just hate to throw stuff away!
On another note, finally found some large trap springs to make blades from . Should be a good seller at the trapper shows this summer.
Always thinkin' of other stuff to build .

Chuck - Wed 07 Jun 2017 22:51:12 #0

Checking in.

Been hitting the site everyday.
Everybody is mum.
God Bless all of you.

Buck Brown - Thu 08 Jun 2017 10:46:25 #0

Me too Chuck

Hi Bruce. I'm thinking of making some blades from trap springs. Do you know what the steel is so I can figure out how to heat treat?
Thanks, BB.

bruce godlesky - Thu 08 Jun 2017 22:13:51 #0

trap spring steel

Buck, I just sent off a piece to get it spectrographed. I'll let ya know whewn I gwet the results. It's a slow process going thru several people but the price is right.
I did run a piece thru my friend's x-ray machine and it come back .38 mn, .23 chrome and 98.8 iron. Ballpark .5 or .6 carbon. Quenched a piece in water and it shattered like glass. I bought these ones from PCS in Michigan. large double springs for wolf traps, I believe.

Joe Rollings - Fri 09 Jun 2017 10:59:15 #0

Got hung up on

When I told the woman on the phone I needed a "lovejoy coupling"....can't imagine why they didn't name those things almost ANYTHING else. Even the knockoffs carry that name....Joe

bruce godlesky - Fri 09 Jun 2017 14:43:58 #0

hung up on.....

Joe did you emphasize any particular word or phrase....?? haha

Joe Rollings - Fri 09 Jun 2017 23:00:19 #0

Tried my best to be deadpan and talk like a robot, but when I order from ladies, they always seem to either giggle or turn frosty. I hate one as much as the other....Joe

Tom C - Sat 10 Jun 2017 07:35:50 #0

Checking in

I check the posts most days, but I haven't been doing much smithing lately because of my '57 Chevy car project. I'm close to putting the body back on the frame; just a few more details to take care of, like wiring under the dash while I can still rotate the body.

Joe, I wondered about that name, too. I guess Mr. Lovejoy was proud of his invention. If the lady knew her inventory, she wouldn't have blinked an eye & asked you what size shafts you were cnnecting.

Today I'm helping my guild get ready for our annual big get together, Hammerstock. It's next Saturday at the Greyhaven Winery in Goochland County, VA. & has been pretty well attended in the past.I'm donating a forged trellis for the auction.

That's it from Central Virginia.

Tom C

Chuck - Sat 10 Jun 2017 23:40:54 #0


I have two pieces left and they don't fit each other. I even forget what I was hooking up.
But I have some odds and ends that were necessary when I got them
Quarter inch black union that will end up in a light fixture along with elbows and nipples.
Have just found out I have Macular Degeneration---Not bad right now but will need more light to finish the knives that are going to pay for the storm/root cellar. Carport is on the agenda.
Traded some knives tonight for some of the back hoe work. A fellow does what he can.

bruce godlesky - Sun 11 Jun 2017 18:29:14 #0

Chuck, go with the 4 ft LED shoplights lights. They sure help those tired old eyes. BTDT
Barter is the way to go. I did so on a new custom recurve bow today. Barter will cover half the cost.

Joe Rollings - Tue 13 Jun 2017 10:53:44 #0


Is always good, providing that the deal is settled completely before anything changes hands. Otherwise, you wind up doing stuff for barter that you would not DREAM of doing for cold, hard cash....Joe

Buck Brown - Tue 13 Jun 2017 13:54:04 #0


Thanks for the help. I did a spark test on a Victor brand trap. It shows very high carbon. I've got to think it will make a fine knife

Buck Brown - Tue 13 Jun 2017 13:58:53 #0


Bruce is right on with the led lights. We're switching everything over to them. They are a much brighter and whiter light than incandescent bulbs. Our electric company repays us for the first $100.00 worth. You might want to see if yours does too.

bruce godlesky - Tue 13 Jun 2017 17:47:07 #0


one of the big things with them lights is the absence of that annoying HUMMMMMM and flicker in cold weather......

Mike B - Wed 14 Jun 2017 20:17:21 #0


I like the LEDs too. The only problem I've had is that my welding rods don't seem as dry since I switched.

Seriously, though, is there a particular brand of the four-footers you're using?

Joe Rollings - Wed 14 Jun 2017 21:01:26 #0


I dunno if they are three or four footers, but I bought the ones from Sams club maybe a year ago, and they were the cheapest around at the time, and work GREAT !

They are still working perfectly, and if I had bought more flouresent ones, I'd be replacing bulbs by now, pro'by some for the second time....Joe

bruce godlesky - Wed 14 Jun 2017 21:34:44 #0


I'd have to look at a box I still have. They come from Rural King store.
There is another option. You can buy the led strips and mount them into existing 4 footers. By-passes the ballasts. The company I looked at was Greenway or sumpin like that.

bruce godlesky - Thu 15 Jun 2017 20:45:00 #0

Brian, did you ever find yer 15n20?

bruce godlesky - Sun 18 Jun 2017 09:19:30 #0


MikeB, the leds I have are made by Lights of America. 4500ens

Mike B - Mon 19 Jun 2017 20:39:41 #0

Thanks, Bruce! That gives me an idea what to look for.

plain ol Bill - Tue 20 Jun 2017 17:44:57 #0

HOT in the SW

Chuck you and others that live in the southwest take care in all the heat. WOW, makes me really thankful for the pacific northwest and our scorching day that hit 72. We had a young couple from Amarillo visit last weekend and were driving back through Phoenix - glad I'm not with them.

bruce godlesky - Wed 21 Jun 2017 08:46:11 #0


as they say... hotter than nine kinds of hades.
I been in the forge shop mearly last 2 mornings welding Damascus. low 60's then up from there. Finish up before it goes to 80.
Ben having all sorts of problems gettin' things to stick. Kinda think I may not be quite hot enuff.
Annoyed enuff I just may buy a made by someone else forge.

Chuck - Wed 21 Jun 2017 21:14:36 #0


JOE--If you can get on Facebook. One of my Granddaughters took some pictures of a few of my knives.
Three different knives have the wood scales from the board you gave me. She photo shopped them but you tell how nice the wood came out.
BRUCE I saw three gas fired forges in one shop of a beginning knife maker, along with a coke forge.
He has been a farrier for a long time, but has gathered everything to be a blacksmith/blademaker.
He had a couple of "Whisper" forges and another that looked impressive. Most of the top part was cast. He mentioned that it would go right up to 2100 and on up to 2300 with just an adjustment. Somehow the forge was able to be set at heat where you wanted.
My gas forge has to be pushed to make forge welding heat. I could burn up a lot of steel in Kevin's propane forges. Grin
You will see him on my Facebook. His name is Kevin Stephens. Nice young man about 60. You will like him. Menefee has went fishing in Florida. He took his oldest daughter fishing for Sharks and Tarpon. Great for them.

I would like to know what his good propane forge was, just to look it up.

JOE been having any of the desert sand storms like they have south of you?

Got to do chores.
God Bless

Chuck - Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:15:06 #0


BRUCE--Mine & Kevin's--- All the forges are propane except the coke forge.
I don't have any natural gas in my shop.

bruce godlesky - Thu 22 Jun 2017 06:09:50 #0


Gonna rig up a blower on mine today.
I think my problem is an underpowered burner.

Joe Rollings - Thu 22 Jun 2017 21:07:46 #0

No sand storms, BUT

It's been real nice and toasty here, 108 one afternoon. So far Arizona has lost about 45000 acres to wildfires and they ain't out yet, and lots fires in New Mexico, too.

My grandson used up his time on the lne and was cussing because he got "stuck" back at base filling up brush trucks, but about that time the guys that were on the fire line picked up about 50 cases of strep throat, so I'm guessing he is pretty happy to be at base filling up trucks for a while.

Gottta wonder if somebody didn't bleach canteens when they filled them or maybe didn't hand them back to the same guy.

Janet is on facebook, and I'll see if she can find your knives, but we may need some coaching.

Have a good'n......Joe

bruce godlesky - Sun 25 Jun 2017 16:19:54 #0

hot forge

I rigged up a yard balloon blower-upper to the new forge ands she just screams.
Use da piece of flexible manifold pipe to connect things. HOT!! Melted the insilboard liner this morning....... No problem with welds shearing now :-)
Picture in the recent file.

bruce godlesky - Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:51:48 #0


awfully quiet around here. Hope everyone keeps there fingers away from the fireworks this weekend.

Joe Rollings - Sun 02 Jul 2017 14:24:01 #0

Anything BUT quiet

here. Three birthdays within a couple of days of the 4th, the house is full of screming kids and adults talking just below shouting. Had to come out here and hide for a few minutes. Glad to see all of the kids, grandkids, great grandkids, friends, spouses, etc........not quite as glad to HEAR them....well, back to the battle....happy fourth, everybody......Joe

Buck Brown - Tue 04 Jul 2017 12:18:11 #0

Hope everyone has a safe and fun filled Independence Day.

Chuck - Wed 05 Jul 2017 00:44:33 #0

Great Fourth Of July.

Happy Independence Day.
We had a good day. Two Grand-sons spent the day with us.
We went fishing yesterday. One neito had a super day fishing from the bank with lures. He caught a black bass and channel cat that both weighed over five pounds.
He cast a net for bait. The only things in the net from several casts were two carp of over 2.5 pounds. Caught in separate cast----No bait fish. Not good for the lake.
Having trouble grinding blades--Have developed Macular Degeneration. Right has always been the eye I used. It is the worst for this Macular deal.
All the trucks you meet on the highway, look like they have already been wrecked. Not good, but we will manage.
Everybody stay safe.
God Bless

Joe Rollings - Sun 09 Jul 2017 22:11:46 #0

Sorry for your troubles

Sandpile. As you know, I have had a lot of eye troubles, too, and just about the time you figure you are going to have to give up, you figure out how to work with the new reality.

I like to keep them going at the optometrist. Every time they slip a new set of glasses on me, I look at my wife and say....."dang! you got a new hairdo" like I have not seen her for months.

We do it with a straight face, and sometimes they seem to believe me.

No fun getting older, but maybe if you get a LOT worse in the eyes, your knives will start to look half as primitive as mine......but I'm not holding my breath....Joe

Chuck - Mon 10 Jul 2017 14:23:04 #0

Knife grinding.

JOE--I ground two knives from some 1/16" A2.
They came out alright. Not Nice but alright.
I will make something if I just make a mess. Grin.
I hope it cools down over your way. We have not been up in the hundreds for about ten days. Lord' we appreciate that,
Got some garden hoe work done this morning.
Now to the shop.
God Bless

John Odom - Mon 10 Jul 2017 16:29:19 #0


I have been out with pneumonia since July 2.

I am now out of the hospital and in a rehab facility.

I am rapidly improving. The question is how much I can get back. I will keep fighting.

Darrell - Mon 10 Jul 2017 22:14:13 #0


You can get a lot back if you just don't quit trying.
I had two strokes in January and I have gone from paralyzed on the right side to not using a cane and back in the shop making things. I couldn't hit anything when I started but now I can drive nails.

John Odom - Wed 12 Jul 2017 19:00:43 #0


I am home. Much better, but not well. I am supposed to take it really easy.

Loren T - Thu 13 Jul 2017 09:06:59 #0


Anybody heard any more about Ellen? I know she had a stroke and was selling her major equipment, but haven't heard any more.

Chuck - Sat 15 Jul 2017 00:40:55 #0


Health is wealth.---DARRELL --I am so glad to hear you are back in the shop making things. I really like your sander/grinder. Simple but durably good.
JOHN Keep plugging. Myrtle(sp) needs you.
ELLEN --I have a number here somewhere for her sister. Helen will have to find it. The last time we called we a got a message and did not get a call back.
We have been having a go of it. Helen is some better--I think just learning to live with it. She is making herself do stuff, whether she feels like it, or not.

My Macular Degeneration deal is something, I am just going to have to deal with. I have made two knives from 1/16" steel just to see if I could grind it straight. Had to look close , but they came out alright. I have handled some older better blades. Selling some kept back knives.
I have about 20 blades I can handle. Maybe by then the Eye doctors can put some better priscripted(sp) glasses on me.
LOREN T. If I can find out something I will post.
JOE--Don't step in any holes.

God Bless all of you.

Joe Rollings - Sat 15 Jul 2017 22:49:40 #0


If you need a REALLY good eye doc, I know the best surgeon AND the best cornea guy in Arizona. The cornea guy got famous by saving my right eye after an idiot surgeon nearly lost if for me. Yes, some eye docs are idiots, and my first attempt at eye surgery, I found one. The cornea guy fixed a detatched retina that not many would have attempted, and it is still good about 5 years later.

So, I have an ablation sceduled, and a kind of funny misunderstanding happened as a result;


"We have your procedure sceduled for September first, providing you take the medications perscribed, with NO mistossis.


"What is mistossis?"


"That is when you miss a dose!"


"Oh, you mean missed doses"


"what did you THINK I said?"


"never mind"

"mistossis" sounded real medical to me.....Joe

John Odom - Sun 16 Jul 2017 21:06:12 #0


S L O W L Y gaining strength.

Tom C - Sat 22 Jul 2017 11:05:33 #0

Tom C

Joe Rollings - Sat 22 Jul 2017 23:09:53 #0

Slowly gaining strength

Me, too, but I am sceduled for a shower on Tuesday....

Sorry, can't resist a gag. Here's hoping you recover quickly, John....Joe

Chuck - Tue 25 Jul 2017 23:15:50 #0

Slow business this knfemaking.

The older I get the slower I get.
BRUCE---How is Diane. Did y'alls garden make before the heat hit you?
JOE--Is Janet coaching you on how to gradually get older?

Helen is making herself go. She can barely get out of her chair, but she does and after a few steps, she bows her neck, throws her elbows out and she is off. She is busy doing some most of the day. She tries to nap in the mid-afternoon, some days she does. You see her stop, stand a bit then when the pain eases off some. She is gone again.

I seem to get slower by the week. I was going pretty good, then the eye deal hit. I have finished the ones I was working on then. I can not see a straight line but ground two small knives. Did not hear comments on how they looked crooked.
Sheath work is going to change up, More front pocket or back pack type sheaths. I made two slant/side draw sheaths today(4 inch belt loop in the middle of the sheath)It will ride straight up or slant, easy for a cross-draw. May start handling some earlier blades that I never did put guards and handles on.
Well y'all don't be so quiet.
God Bless

Darrell - Tue 25 Jul 2017 23:55:14 #0

I need 4 1/4" black iron couplings and 4 1/4" black iron street Ls. That should fit in a small flat rate box.
Would send a check if someone was willing to pick them up from the hardware store and send them.
Has anyone heard from Stephen Gensheimer? He was supposed to call me last week and now his phone mail box is full.

Buck Brown - Wed 26 Jul 2017 10:10:29 #0

Pipe fittings

Hi Darrell..........I'd be happy to send the fittings to you.
Here is my E-mail address so you can send me your shipping address:

Buck Brown - Wed 26 Jul 2017 12:03:29 #0

Pipe fittings

Hi again.......I have your fittings and will ship when I get your address.

bruce godlesky - Wed 26 Jul 2017 22:20:09 #0


Chuck, Di is still awaitin' results from Monday's biopsy. We're thinkin' it's pneumonia (shrug) She's hangin' in there lioke them hillbilly girls do :-)

I had a bunch of lil stuff to make for a customer, wreath holders, hat hooks, etc. got that all done last week, now gearing up for a run of hawks. Have 4 or 5 orders on the list.

We don't get the heat here like yall do out West. Ha dso much rain lately, the sweetcorn and taters is overcome with weeds.

The kid that won the Forged in Fire contest broadcast last evening is a cousin of mine. Heckuva good maker! Glad he did well!! We've spent a lot of time at the anvil together (BOG)

Darrell - Wed 26 Jul 2017 23:49:08 #0


thank you very much. I will be building forge burners with the parts.
I just got the high temp IR temp gun in the mail today.

Joe Rollings - Fri 28 Jul 2017 22:26:56 #0


Nope, Janet is not trying to slow me down on the getting older. I'm doing it at a pretty good clip. At least it seems to happen quicker than it used to.

If your one eye is causing that crooked vision, I have been through that a few times. I gave up on the stamps for years one time right after I beat up on a jack handle with my head and it took them over 4 hours to sew everything up.

Some years later I had adjusted to it and made stamps for several more years. When the injury first happened, I couldn't even cut a juniper branch at 90 degrees, give or take 15 degrees. Have you had the doc look at it? My Dad talked about trucks coming at him o the hyway looking like their wheels were laying down just like you did the other day, and he had had a bleeder in his eye. They got it fixed so maybe you can do the same. Or use your other eye to check for straightness.

If you are going to go for the short knives for a while, might be a good time to switch to folders. I know far more folders get sold every year than fixed blade anyway. I made a bunch of friction folders a few years ago, and they outsold the fixed blade by a LOT, and took less time to build.

I used a machinist slotting saw to inlet the handles, and got pretty quick after a while. I think if I make another batch, I will use hard maple on the handles and maybe look for a way to dye it some fancy colors 'cause it is pretty plain wood. Makes good handles, though, 'cause it will hardly ever split.

I used to make wooden pliers out of it for buffing jewelry without burning the fingers or scratching up the jewelry, and sold a LOT of them. 2 drywall screws through each side, above and below the pin to keep the joint from splitting, and never got a broken pair back for warranty.

Here is hoping that you two get to feeling more chipper soon. I have kicked the "mistossis" and will go in for ablation around September first. Most old farts are not talking about the heartbeat when they wish for more "regularity", but then I never was subject to the "usual complaints", always having more "interesting afflictions" though any of them were at all "interesting".....what a hoot!.....Joe

Buck Brown - Sat 29 Jul 2017 10:41:21 #0


You're sure welcome. Good luck with your forge.

Loren T - Sat 29 Jul 2017 11:12:31 #0

Old Blacksmiths

You know you're old when you take Ibuprofen without thinking about it, you automatically put your copper bracelets on to cover the arthritis in your elbows and you refer to what was previously your left and right knees as your good and bad knees. I read somewhere (maybe here) about a guy taking instructions from an old blacksmith when he dropped something. He bent over to pick it up and his instructor said,"Stop right there! While you're down there, pick everything up. Never waste a good bend down." I find myself thinking about that every time I bend over.

Jeff Reinhardt - Sat 29 Jul 2017 20:01:48 #0

Old Blacksmiths

Loren T, I resemble that comment:)

Buck Brown - Sun 30 Jul 2017 11:03:15 #0

Loren T

That's a good one! I can get down just fine. It's getting up that's the problem!

bruce godlesky - Mon 07 Aug 2017 16:02:08 #0

down and can't get up.

that's one of the reasons I give up the autobody bidness. Gittin' down was OK , being down not bad sometimes. But when ya just couldn't get up that was the end. Gets pretty cold down there...... At least now I can stand at the anvil or hammer or press and work.
Had a good weekend forging hawks and b&t blades. Along with cleraning up some cable billets and pattern weld billets.

Joe Rollings - Mon 07 Aug 2017 22:58:11 #0


They have a pill for that, I'm told....Joe

Loren T - Tue 08 Aug 2017 15:01:22 #0


Santa came early this year. I went to the shop at my son's house (see photo in recent photos-new shop building). Imagine my surprise to find a brand new Grizzly brand 15" planer, shaper, lathe with duplicate attachments, miter saw, edge belt sander, and the best, a 20" disc sander! I know this is a blacksmithing site, but think what you can do with that kind of equipment! Turns out that it belongs to the electrician who wired the shop and he had it in storage where he had to vacate. We are free to set it up and use it, and he can access it any time. Merry Christmas in August!

Buck Brown - Wed 09 Aug 2017 16:43:54 #0


That would be a little blue one? I've heard about them. Haha.

John Odom - Fri 11 Aug 2017 19:56:01 #0


Is our 60th anniversary. I was a broken-up kid with a scrambled brain when she married me. Myrna is the best thing that has ever happened to me.

Buck Brown - Sat 12 Aug 2017 11:06:39 #0

John Odom

Congratulations John and Myrna!

Bert - Sat 12 Aug 2017 11:14:05 #0

Congratulations John & Myrna...

On 60 yrs together. Mine & I are just rookies by comparison; 40 yrs come October. I was a grizzled old Mountain Man/Cowboy Wannbe/Motorcycle Hoodlum of 30 and she was barely 20. Always wondered what he folks thought when she brought me to dinner to meet them...

I've learned Patience, Forgiveness, Kindness & Sensitivity for others and to NEVER, EVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES MESS w/ HER SCHEDULE...! Not always smooth, but it's been a good 40 years overall...

Jeff Reinhardt - Sat 12 Aug 2017 11:25:41 #0

Happy Anniversary John and Myrna! I too am a rank amateur in comparison. The Rock and I met in 1977, when I was her jumpmaster. We soon started dating, became a couple, and were married in 1981. Like Bert I was the wilder side of the couple, and her folks must have been quite alarmed when she announced she was engaged to a skydiving, half crippled mechanic.

Chuck - Sat 12 Aug 2017 18:07:14 #0

No rookies at close to 40 years.

JOHN MYRNA--Congrats hang in there. God Bless
There are not any rookies when you have been double hitched for forty or close years.
I am blessed to have my Helen for 54 years.
God Bless any that can stay hooked.

Joe Rollings - Wed 16 Aug 2017 16:46:05 #0


My wife told our grandkids that we hope to be together for 75 years, and one grandaughter asked what happened at er 75 years?

Janet told her she guessed we would both be free agents after that. The gradaughter is an adult now, still laughing about the idea of us doddering into singles bars at age 95.....Joe

bruce godlesky - Sun 20 Aug 2017 17:39:59 #0


to all the old time marriages!
I been married since 1971 with a 1 year rest in between. heheh 13 the first one and now 32 to the current Mrs.G.
Just spent 8 days at our County Fair. Really anxious to get back into the shop.
Enuff people contact for a spell........ Not used to the 40+ trip back and forth either but it is fun. Seein' folks once a year is not a bad thing (BOG). Plus make some smithing contacts.

Tom C - Sun 27 Aug 2017 12:01:21 #0


Louise & I lived together for 11 years before we got hitched. That was on Groundhog's day 2002. We didn't want to rush into things, you see.

My '57 Chevy restoration project is taking a lot longer than I'd planned ( no surprise there, right?) I'm in the middle of doing the body work, which I hate. I hope to have it back on the chassis & at the painter's shop next month. We'll see.....

Meanwhile, it's time to think about Quad States.

Tom C

John Odom - Wed 30 Aug 2017 09:23:48 #0


Praying for our people there.

Alex Ivey - Thu 31 Aug 2017 00:35:46 #0


Can't imagine the grief the people in the Houston are sand suffering. Prayers for them.

Jim Poor was on Forged In Fire episode 64 last night. Lost chance for the final round due to broken blade. Wanted to see his shop and equipment but maybe he'll get to come back again.

Busy getting ready for demonstrating at the NM state fair starting on Sept. 7th. Yuall invited to come by and visit with us if in the area. You can swing a hammer to if you please. LXIV

Darrell - Thu 31 Aug 2017 18:20:21 #0


I received this today. Can anyone help?

name: Tony


I am 95 years old and I have my father's old grinding wheel. It is no long on a base, and I have ideas of how to build one.
I am needing help in locating the hardware for the grinding stone. Any thoughts on how to get new hardware/pillow blocks and handle to refurbish this tool?


bruce godlesky - Fri 01 Sep 2017 07:00:35 #0

grinding wheel.

only 2 options I can come up with are , check with some Amish or build new setup from scratch. 1/2" angle and homade pillow blocks.

Loren T - Fri 01 Sep 2017 10:50:16 #0

Forged in Fire

As a newby many years ago I was taught that you heated up a blade and quenched it to normalize the metal. Then you polished it and ran the colors until the desired one was at the blade edge, then quenched it to set it. On Forged in Fire they heat it up, quench it, and that is it. I have had more than one blade shatter in dozens of pieces when in a normalized state. Are modern alloys different or do they have to skip this step because of time restrictions? After all it is Television.

John Odom - Fri 01 Sep 2017 16:13:21 #0


I have the same question. I have been told they do tempering off camera, but I do not know.

bruce godlesky - Sat 02 Sep 2017 08:43:05 #0


they do the blade tempering off camera.

Mike B - Sat 02 Sep 2017 10:33:26 #0


I've never seen the show, but am told the blades are tempered in an oven. Might not make the most riveting part of an episode . . .

Chuck - Sat 02 Sep 2017 20:55:49 #0

Blade smithing

To normalize- take above magnetic(1325)---let cool in calm air. Best to start at 1350-60 then 2nd time at 1340- and one last time at 1325. All this is cooled in calm air down to a good dark color.
QUENCH--Depending on the steel from 1340F up to 1750F quenching in 130 oil or warm water again depending on the steel.
TEMPERING- DRAW- in oven from 300F to 400F 45 minutes again depending on the steel---
All these procedures are best if triplicated.

Stainless Steel is a different deal all together, as is any air hardening steel.

Brief but close--If you need more info you can find it on the kinfemaker sites.

Steel less than a 1/4" or an art deal. The books all speak of 1" or thicker steel.

Alex Ivey - Mon 04 Sep 2017 13:04:35 #0

Heat treating

Chuck, thanks for the heat treat info, very good.

Posted a photo of a small hat forged from a 16 quarter mokume billit. Pattern is random, don't show up to well in the photo. LXIV,

bruce godlesky - Mon 04 Sep 2017 22:16:58 #0


nice job Alex on the mokume hat!!

Chuck - Tue 05 Sep 2017 00:47:37 #0


ALEX-- Good job on the Mokume Hat.
You have the hat deal down pat.
Good everybody.

Chuck - Thu 14 Sep 2017 23:26:57 #0


Well It will be ten days tomorrow since a post has been put up.
I don't believe anybody has been that busy. grin.
I hope everybody has not been sick

Darrell - Fri 15 Sep 2017 02:03:31 #0


Well I have managed to stay busy. I got a Bridgeport CNC mill shipped in and moved into place and then picked it up with a come-along to get it off the pallet.
Still waiting for a motor to make a 3 phase converter. In the mean time someone scrapped out a ProCut 9.0 on the car rotor turning lathe and gave it to a friend
who proceeded to cut wires and strip it down to the motor. Then he found that the motor wouldn't work for his plan so he gave it all to me.
After about a week of figuring where the wires went I got it back together and made it work so now I have a working brake lathe.
Have spent my spare time organizing the shop and building another gas forge and burner, while remodeling a condo and installing new doors on the condo storage units.
Being retired is very tiring.

Loren T - Fri 15 Sep 2017 09:48:55 #0

Being Retired

When I had my shop in the 90's, a lot of retired guys would stop in to shoot the bull. I always made time to visit no matter how busy i was, mainly because in a small town word of mouth advertising is everything. I remember one guy saying that after he retired he was so busy, he didn't know how he ever found time to hold a job. He was right.

bruce godlesky - Fri 22 Sep 2017 06:47:00 #0

I like working so don't intend to stop anytime soon. Ha!
With huntin' season creeping up on us, I might/might not be in the shop at any specific time. When the mood strikes me......... One of the advantages of being self-employed.
Hope everyone at Quad-State keeps dry! Sooner or later I'll make it out there.....
Fixin' to start on winter steel supply soon. I like to make up several dozen blades and a half dozen Damascus billets before the crappoy weather hits.

Buck Brown - Mon 25 Sep 2017 10:42:51 #0

It was 35* here this morning in south central Utah so I'll be going to the coal yard soon. I heat the shop with a caboose stove. Sure looking forward to firing the forge. Been way too hot all summer to do anything but wood working.
Anybody ever hear anything from Ellen?

Darrell - Mon 25 Sep 2017 20:40:54 #0


Hi Buck, The web still shows the pipe fittings to be in KANAB, UT 84741 where they have been since July.
I have got past the need for them but you could collect on the insurance.

Buck Brown - Wed 27 Sep 2017 17:37:53 #0

Thanks Darrell. Too bad that didn't work out. Don't hesitate to let me know if you need anything else and we'll try again!

Joe Rollings - Sun 01 Oct 2017 23:02:28 #0

Catching up

I have had a lot of trouble since my ablation, but am beginning to come out of it. They don't tell you all of the things a surgery does to you until it is too late to change your mind.

While I have been recovering, I have been making muzzle loading cannons, and have high hopes they will sell as gifts.

Prayers up for all of you who are sicker than me, and those who still feel fine.

After all, somebody needs to pray for the healthy......Joe

Buck Brown - Mon 09 Oct 2017 10:36:04 #0

Hope everyone is enjoying a pleasant Autumn. It's been nice here, although we've had a few mornings close to freezing. The cold nights have shut the garden down. Very windy yesterday, though. We've been busy getting ready for winter.
Sure don't miss cutting all the firewood like we used to do when we lived in Western Colorado. Don't miss the ice and snow for sure.

I'll be firing up the forge soon. Need to do a couple projects for the neighbors.

Joe, can you post some pics of the cannons you are making?


John Odom - Tue 10 Oct 2017 12:41:51 #0


Joe: tell us about the canons! size etc. Picture?

Joe Rollings - Tue 10 Oct 2017 23:11:53 #0

Pics up tomorrow

I will post pics tomorrow of the cannons. Thanks for your interest...Joe

Joe Rollings - Thu 12 Oct 2017 12:49:02 #0


Finally got a couple of pics of one up, more later....Joe

Joe Rollings - Thu 12 Oct 2017 13:46:33 #0


Finally got a couple of pics of one up, more later....Joe

bruce godlesky - Fri 13 Oct 2017 10:52:09 #0

Hot Dang JHoe! I like that!! How far will it send a golf ball?? The wheels are turning.........

Bruce Blackistone (Atli) - Fri 13 Oct 2017 21:14:46 #0

Coehorn Mortar

What's the bore?

We've had great fun with ours; it has a 2 1/4" bore and we load it with an onion (or sometimes a turnip) as a projectile, run a fireworks sparkler through the onion (before loading it down the bore, bending the "handle end" over at the bottom) and, using another sparkler as a linstock, igniting the first sparkler and then discharging the piece. A nice display as it twirls, flinging out sparks and arcing out over the river!

Loren T - Sat 14 Oct 2017 06:40:00 #0


Spud Guns! Punkin Chukkers! Onion cannons! I'm 72 and there's 3 things I never dreamed I would live to see! Along with the fact that when I took computer programming at Arizona State University, ASU only had 2 computers. Now we walk around with them on our wrist. Good thing we have blacksmithing with a simple fire, anvil, and hammer to keep us grounded.

Joe Rollings - Sat 14 Oct 2017 22:24:41 #0

cannons and stuff

I have no idea how far a short cannon like that will shoot a golf ball, but one of my bigger ones, around 18", will send it through both sides of a junk refigerator and then down range maybe 100 yards.

I dug up one of my 18" barrels that I had sold a friend who died and left me all of his junk. It was bored to 1.5", so I ordered some steel balls that size.

Loaded it up with a proper charge and shot it all of the say through both sides of a Geo Metro and it touched ground for the first time about 200 yards downrange.

I didn't run the trunion cap bolts all of the way through the cheekpiece and the cheekpiece on both sides split....found the barrel about 10 feet behind the cannon. Back to the drawing board.

I have a dang site more fun than any old man is entitled to....but I'm not even thinking about stopping.....Joe

Joe Rollings - Sat 14 Oct 2017 22:31:08 #0

On another subject

I have maybe 200 pounds of THICK 5160 leaf sptings from old dump truck spring bundles.

Thinking about running pieces of it for sale on Ebay to make hatchets and stuff from.

Think I will get any action? Have not yet measured it, but it looks like it could go maybe 3/8" thick and at least 3" or more wide.

I guess the question is too vague. I'll measure and ask again.....Joe

Bert - Sun 15 Oct 2017 11:24:46 #0

Joe's Other Subject

I've always had better luck w/ Craigslist than Ebay with all the bidding and shipping and Paypal crap I don't want to deal with. Also might be because I'm only 25 miles from downtown Portland and half the state's population lives within 50 miles of pdx... Don't know how many C's-listers you've got in rural N.M. if I remember where you live correctly.

Then there's your salesmanship to consider. I used to make a lot of trellises and tomato cages out of rebar cuz it's cheap and I could tell people the little nubbers were there for the plants to hold onto... AND, you'd be surprised at how many people would believe me when I told them it was 'Imported Art Iron'... "See it says Mexico (or Korea) right on it"...


bruce godlesky - Mon 16 Oct 2017 07:47:36 #0


My wife says I do not have enuff adult supervision to have a cannon........
I have not had good luck selling on CL nor ebay. Mebbe that's why I have sooo much "stuff" lying about.
Had a fella drop off a stack of 24" sawblades yesterday. Guess I'll get them checked for content. May pay me to buy a plasma cutter. Any suggestions on a make/model??
In the past , I was getting the big sawblades (52") waterjetted but it has just gotten to dang expensive. $400 for a complete blade cut into 1 1/4" strips. I can buy a heckuva lot of 15n20 for that!

Chuck - Mon 16 Oct 2017 23:36:27 #0

Knives + steel

BRUCE-- I always wanted to buy a plasma cutter. Wish now I had done it.
I have some damn good band saw blades, 36" circular saw blades
Cutting the patterns with a plasma leaves very little tracks to grind back passed.
I have been buying A2 from the enenmy. Did not know it till just the other day. I forget the name right now. Empire or something like that. It was the best buy on any size above a 1/8" in A2.
I been spraying and quenching the A2. Seems to work. I don't have anything but a file to check the hardness.
JOE- Hide behind something thick when shooting those things.
BRUCE How high did that anvil go on your Timeline? Took a long time it to fall.

Loren T - Tue 17 Oct 2017 08:38:25 #0

Plasma cutter

I have had a Plasma cutter since 1990. My first one was used and I gave $800 for it.Sold it in $2001 for $800. My second one, which I bought in about 2005 is a Thermal Dynamics cutmaster 38. I think I paid about $1600 for it, and it will cut up to 1/4" clean. If you are looking for one, above all, make sure the disposables are reasonably priced. I have found that Thermal Dynamics is the best. I recently bought 10 electrodes, a shield, and 10 tips from Amazon for about $90. Very
reasonably priced. When I bought my first one, I was about 100 miles from Phoenix up in the mountains, and I decided anything I could do without having access to a shear and brake was money in the bank. Having a plasma cutter was just like having a 12'long 1/4" plate shear. A customer had me cut knife blanks out of his sawblade for $10 each. I got to keep the drop and sold it as art for $350. Posted a Pic in recent pics.

bruce godlesky - Tue 17 Oct 2017 12:37:28 #0

Chuck, think that anvil shoot was in slo-mo. Ya, it dod take a long time to get it earth bound:-)
These blades I just got are all Simonds. Til I get them speced, gonna assume they are 1070/1080 plus high Ni. Plus I have a 52 incher (Simonds) an Amishman gave me. Prolly enuff steel to last mew a loooong time. Now to order a batch of 1095 to mix with it. I prefer keepin' the carbon as high as possible.
I reckon I'll start shoppin' for a plasma cutter before long. In thew long run it will pay for itself.
Kinda amazed at how many requests I get for blades from the do-it-yerselfers.

Joe Rollings - Tue 17 Oct 2017 16:42:39 #0

craigslist, steel cannons and plasma cutters

Nobody much around here to buy anything off of Craigslist. Population density around one person per 1 1.2 square miles.

The steel is both 5/16 and 7/16 by 2 3/8 and 3" wide. I dunno when they changed truck springs from 1095 to 5160, but this stuff is from the mid 1960's. If I put it on Ebay, I will pickle it to remove the scale and rust, then lightly oil it. The scale on new 5160 HR is a royal pain in the butt, and a bit or muratic followed by baking soda and water will clean it up quickly.

I always test fir those cannons wit4h a truck wheel and engine between me and it the first time it goes off. I like a solid shield better than lots of distance because you never know how far something might fly.

I have had a coupld of plasma cutters, and the difference between the two as far as consumables is pretty remarkable. The first one was a Thermal Dynamics 25 amp, and it went through consumables like crap through a tin horn. Better with a good water removal on the air system, but still a lot of tips went in the trash.

This second one is a longevity 44-d I think is the model number, and I have had it about three years. Might have a solid 10 hours cutting on it at most, but it only came with one extra tip, which I thought was pretty stingy. Fact is, I don't even know where to find that extra tip because I am still using the original! Hard to believe.

It cuts a slightly larger slot than the TD I started with, and I think the reason the tips last so long is that it uses two or three times the air as the TD, and keep the tip pretty cool. Runs air through a LOT longer after you stop cutting than the TD did. It will operate on 120 on thin stuff, 230 volts on thick stuff, and changes over automatically.

Anybody who thinks about getting one of the same xhould just resign himself to taking the lid off and replacing all of the hoses and clamps under the hood right off the bat. Cheap clear hose and lousy clamps from the factory. Other than that, no complaints, except nobody has ever figured out how to make one as portable as they look. Only way I can see to keep one in good shape is to put it on a shelf and leave it there, with loops to hang the wires from.

Oh, yeah, replace the ground clamp right off, too. The pin through the middle of the new one is held in there by spring tension and luck, both of which run out early.....Joe

Joe Rollings - Thu 19 Oct 2017 15:00:21 #0

Population density

was supposed to be 1 per i i/2 miles, not that it is important. Comes from proof reading a week after the post.

Got my "all clear" from the Albuquerque docs on the ablation. They scortch some nerve in there that makes you only able to get a bout a half a lung full of air for some time after the procedure, but that is pretty easy to live with comared to the AF. All is good!.....Joe

Buck Brown - Fri 20 Oct 2017 12:22:47 #0


Glad to hear you're doing better, and thanks for the canon pics. Very nice.

Joe Rollings - Fri 20 Oct 2017 22:25:13 #0

another cannon

Posted a pic of a larger previous cannon. Running out of the 5" round stock for the big ones. Really hate to buy new, but might have to if I keep on going with them.

I have an order for a Oxy bottle bowling ball cannon. Anybody know where I can get a reject 9" diameter Oxy bottle for a reasonable price?

It prob'ly won't be as pretty to look at, but I am REALLY looking forwards to shooting it for the test fire.

I have to turn a 5" chamber for the back of it from solid steel to damp the explosion and focus it down the barrel, and put on an elevation adjustment. I already have the acme screw and nut and some of the other stuff to make it, but need the bottle.....and some bowling balls.....Joe

Alex Ivey - Sun 22 Oct 2017 19:24:07 #0


Joe , I have an HP DOT cylinders you can have. I'm in Bosque Farms, will you be coming to Albuq any time soon. LXIV,




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